GTP in 2003

pete55 · 14 Mar 2003, 09:36 (Ref:535816)

GTP looks to be fairly interesting this year. It will be interesting to see how the new VW Golf R32's go against the Subarus, Evo Lancers, Commodore GTS's, Falcon GT's, BMW's, Nissans and Mazda RX7's. Gee that's 8 manufacturers in one race.

the man · 15 Mar 2003, 10:55 (Ref:536808)

Yeah it is shaping up to be a great year,but would the RX8 be running sometime in the year?

pete55 · 15 Mar 2003, 11:27 (Ref:536825)

I'm not sure but i think Bob Pearson is hoping it is available later on in the year.

racer69 · 15 Mar 2003, 14:27 (Ref:536948)

I think the plan is for Pearson's team to at least test one before the end of the year, maybe the aim is to run one in the 24 hour.

Looks like a good line-up. What are the race formats. Hopefully some longer distance races will be in there to give the 2WD cars a chance (as was proved in the 24 hour).

Should be a good year for the highest Touring Car class we have here.

**GTRMagic** · 15 Mar 2003, 23:20 (Ref:537613)

I reckon a works-supported M3 with a works driver in it would be hard to toss in Nations Cup...

Tradition doesnt hold well for some of the Evos and WRX's, history has shown that in yr 1 the cars have reliability, but as those vehicles are raced for their 2nd season the bits that were thought to be ok begin to break down

A shame Fully & Peters arent in the field this year... Mark King arguably is the favourite, with Wayne Boatwright up there too

pete55 · 16 Mar 2003, 00:28 (Ref:537689)

I too reckon a BMW M3 should go alright. I'm not sure if the BA XR6 Turbo is in GTP or not. It seems to have been moved around a bit.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Mar 2003, 00:33 (Ref:537696)

With no disrepect to the rumoured drivers, the only way the BA would do well would be to draft a Ford Supercar driver onboard...

pete55 · 16 Mar 2003, 01:12 (Ref:537731)

I was told if the XR6 Turbo was to run in GTP that in race trim it would produce 300KW. One rumoured driver was David Wood, not sure of any other. It looks like 3 GT-P Falcons will be running at least. I also notice that only one of the proposed BMW M3's have entered for Adelaide. At least one of the rumoured HSV GTS's haven't turned up either.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Mar 2003, 01:15 (Ref:537732)

There will be a story in Zoom or one of those mags that will show an XR6 Turbo engine making 700bhp+ That wouldnt be GTP standard internals, or indeed intercooler & the like....

Ford should still help a team in that class, to counter the Monaro annihilation

pete55 · 16 Mar 2003, 01:58 (Ref:537754)

The Monaro doesn't run in GTP though. I reckon the GTS should run in GTP though and not where it is. It would be good to see a few XR6 Turbos running in GTP though against the HSV GTS and the Falcon GT-P and the Subarus and Lancers etc.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Mar 2003, 02:13 (Ref:537756)

The whole parity problem in GTP and Nations Cup is that the drivers are as big a variable as the vehicle. Someone like Geoff Morgan who has done incredibly well with the lardar5ed Viper in GTP is relatively nowhere in the identical Porsche Cup cars....

And by the same token, you put a better driver in a L2 Faz 360 and watch the car nip at the heels of the L1 cars, and not get lapped every race

pete55 · 16 Mar 2003, 02:36 (Ref:537762)

Yes it wouldn't be easy to work it all out but i think they could do it better than they have.
GTP doesn't seem to be attracting Factory participation so they obviously don't find it attractive enough to worry about it.

**GTRMagic** · 16 Mar 2003, 04:05 (Ref:537780)

When the teev was only on SBS where will the manufacturers achieve bragging rights??

Maybe they should have run a South Park episode either side of Speedweek, might have improved viewing numbers :confused:

golem · 16 Mar 2003, 05:31 (Ref:537803)

For an example, Auto Action did a review of the NC-Mustang that PHR was running, and with Bowe in the seat it was right on Group 1 times. Competitive. But with the driver it had, no go.

Anyhow, to get the Falcon motor up to around 270kW is incredibly easy. Just change the ECU, but it'll shatter the crappy gearbox in it. I haven't read the tech regs for GTP but if you can change your box to a differant set of internals the Falc can easily break it's 450Nm cap. (That cap is there for that gearbox reason. It produces 450Nm in a flat table from 2000-4500 rpm.) There's a measly 6psi boost running on it. New computer allowing for more boost and away it goes. The motors internals for a race distance could more than likely handle it and the optional brake package is a development from the previous GT's, so fairly strong units.

I don't think it'd compete with the Evo's and whatnot but it'd be a decently quick car.

AussieV8 · 16 Mar 2003, 06:08 (Ref:537811)

Quote:

Originally posted by pete55
GTP looks to be fairly interesting this year. It will be interesting to see how the new VW Golf R32's go against the Subarus, Evo Lancers, Commodore GTS's, Falcon GT's, BMW's, Nissans and Mazda RX7's. Gee that's 8 manufacturers in one race.

pete I have to back you up on how great it is to have so many manufactures in the series from V8's to 4bees and those mighty RX7's (oneyed mazda fan) and those hot little Golfs. The Euros may straggle at first but once sorted out it could be anyones race or second
(RX7 1st). I just hope that Channel 7 doesn't put Macaphukie on as a commentator as he is a pain in the neck and has no idea of motorsport.
I've notice Maek Oastler missing from Ten so where has he gone ?? Maybe he might turn up on Seven with the PROCAR show.

CooperS79 · 16 Mar 2003, 08:55 (Ref:537873)

Ok here are a couple of things about the XR6T

The XR6T will not run in GT Performance it is in the eligibilty list for the APCC (Australian Production Car Championship).

Procar wanted it in GT Performance but CAMS knocked it back due to the fact that it would have needed to many concessions to be competitive in that class (GT Performance).

It will run in the APCC, (if anyone builds one) at standard boost and weight.

There is only one BA entered for Adelaide and that is a GT entered by Daryl Coon, but if the rumors are right then he dosnt even have a car yet.

Trevor Haines is hoping to have a new GT online by round 2 at Symonds Plains.

pete55 · 16 Mar 2003, 11:01 (Ref:537945)

Garry Holt is supposed to be building one too. I guess it is a GT.

racer69 · 16 Mar 2003, 12:35 (Ref:538007)

Quote:

Originally posted by AussieV8
I just hope that Channel 7 doesn't put Macaphukie on as a commentator as he is a pain in the neck and has no idea of motorsport.
I've notice Maek Oastler missing from Ten so where has he gone ?? Maybe he might turn up on Seven with the PROCAR show.

I was hoping Wilko might get a run, but 7 have let him go, maybe Mike will make another comeback. I'm not sure what happened with Oastler, maybe he is busy with his Mag.

This year's series looks wide open, and doesn't look like it will be a 4WD benefit as in previous years.

AussieV8 · 17 Mar 2003, 05:02 (Ref:538584)

racer69 I can't wait till PROCAR comes to Wakefield Park. I would travel further to see the proddies series than the taxi's. My nephew and I are going back to the top of the MT to camp for the 24hr.

Crash Test · 17 Mar 2003, 10:56 (Ref:538766)

I notice Mark Oastler was calling the Konicas for 10 on the weekend.

AussieV8 · 18 Mar 2003, 04:54 (Ref:539778)

Does that mean he has taken a step back or sideways to host Trackside ???

True Believer · 18 Mar 2003, 05:30 (Ref:539791)

Well his brother Malcolm got sacked from BAR for doing a lousy job for 3 seasons and got kicked upstairs into Jaguar, so anything is possible

pete55 · 18 Mar 2003, 05:40 (Ref:539798)

Have you had a few angry pills today True Believer.

True Believer · 18 Mar 2003, 05:51 (Ref:539806)

No angry pills, just dont think people should get selected because they are the only ones around at the time not sitting down when the music stops

AussieV8 · 18 Mar 2003, 05:57 (Ref:539809)

In the television world if you are **** don't you end up on TEN so if they think hez **** then that doesn't say much about the producer.

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