What about Spyker's GT programme? - Page 30

broadrun96 · 24 Feb 2011, 15:05 (Ref:2836210)

It does sound like a weird deal, Spyker bought Saab with the money 'made' selling Spykers but now the Spyker sportscar division is immaterial (the CEO's word) and the cash needed is more important? And sold back to Antonov, who owned 30% of the company before GM made Spyker buy him out before selling them Saab.

Any odds on if they will be on ANY grids in 2012 or beyond?

Graham Goodwin · 24 Feb 2011, 15:27 (Ref:2836220)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

It does sound like a weird deal, Spyker bought Saab with the money 'made' selling Spykers but now the Spyker sportscar division is immaterial (the CEO's word) and the cash needed is more important? And sold back to Antonov, who owned 30% of the company before GM made Spyker buy him out before selling them Saab.

Any odds on if they will be on ANY grids in 2012 or beyond?

That rather depends on whether it was Antonov who was behind the support and funding the latter day GT2 racing effort doesn't it?

TWK · 24 Feb 2011, 15:47 (Ref:2836229)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

It does sound like a weird deal, Spyker bought Saab with the money 'made' selling Spykers but now the Spyker sportscar division is immaterial (the CEO's word) and the cash needed is more important? And sold back to Antonov, who owned 30% of the company before GM made Spyker buy him out before selling them Saab.

Any odds on if they will be on ANY grids in 2012 or beyond?

This current iteration of Spyker has reported a loss every year of its existence.

Mal · 24 Feb 2011, 16:30 (Ref:2836252)

There was a lot more money in that business than was made selling a handfull of sportscars and the sportscars sure as hell didnt produce enough to buy and operate Saab.

broadrun96 · 24 Feb 2011, 18:49 (Ref:2836296)

I know they were losing money, that's why I said 'money.' And the CEO's own words in an article on LeftLane News said they used the assets of Spyker cars to buy into Saab. Now selling for a seemingly low price of 15 mill Euros with an additional 17 mill earn-out. Sorry tree care/butcher, what's an earn-out and how does that help them decrease their old debt? What other businesses did Spyker run or invest in, and how much money, if any, did they have left from selling the F1 team? Seems like they had to be doing something other than selling beautiful but RARE cars at a loss.

As for them coming back racing, I guess I was indirectly asking about Antonov's involvement. Was/is he a racing fan or is he more into the street car side of the business? I hadn't heard of him until the GM dealings last year, and nothing sounded bad just sounded like no one on the US side of GM trusted him.

rich07 · 25 Feb 2011, 01:33 (Ref:2836510)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

That rather depends on whether it was Antonov who was behind the support and funding the latter day GT2 racing effort doesn't it?

Was he connected to Snoras? (im taking a stab in the dark here).

If so would be make sense and hopefully raise chances of seeing Spyker on the grid again.

carsten66 · 25 Feb 2011, 14:34 (Ref:2836756)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Was he connected to Snoras? (im taking a stab in the dark here).

If so would be make sense and hopefully raise chances of seeing Spyker on the grid again.

Vladimir Antonov is Chairman of AB Bank SNORAS Supervisory Board and main shareholder of the bank...

MJ_N_09 · 27 Feb 2011, 00:48 (Ref:2837349)

So basically, this is the end of the GT Spyker program? ;(

ger80 · 27 Feb 2011, 10:41 (Ref:2837423)

Why? The Russian man who owns CPP and now bought Spyker is the same who paid for the Snoras sponsorship on the car in recent year.

rich07 · 27 Feb 2011, 22:30 (Ref:2837680)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

Vladimir Antonov is Chairman of AB Bank SNORAS Supervisory Board and main shareholder of the bank...

Well hopefully this is a good sign for the future (taking onboard what he has done for the Squadron in the past).

Marcel ten Caat · 28 Feb 2011, 01:14 (Ref:2837740)

Vladimir Antonov is behind Snoras Bank and Convers Group, the (title) sponsors of Spyker Squadron in recent years.

The fact that he signed a memorandum of understanding to take over Spyker from Victor Muller could be seen as positive as this means full focus will be on the sportscars again...and if the new C8 Ailerons will be rolling out of the factory, the race team could be used as marketing tool again. No point in putting money in yet another season with the old lady

Mind you that the production line had already been moved from The Netherlands to Coventry in 2009, with the intention to build the C8 Aileron in the UK.

broadrun96 · 28 Feb 2011, 03:16 (Ref:2837757)

Plus they are adding the new Vette ZR-1 lump in the back of the street car. Now if they could get GM to sell them the previous seasons C6R's engine package for a GT2 effort, wishful thinking I know but maybe they could convince GM it would be worth it economically. And does anyone think Spyker could challenge GM for dominance in the ILMC? Assuming the Vettes stayed ALMS and the Spykers most likely in the LMS of course.

jc_nl · 28 Feb 2011, 17:56 (Ref:2838046)

Good news for us fans:

http://www.spykersquadron.com/?pag=71&newsid=674

Let's hope it works out ok.

nobster · 28 Feb 2011, 18:37 (Ref:2838063)

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Originally Posted by jc_nl

Good news for us fans:

http://www.spykersquadron.com/?pag=71&newsid=674

Let's hope it works out ok.

A beauty, worth waiting for!!!

dxk1 · 1 Mar 2011, 00:11 (Ref:2838206)

Quite a lovely machine!! Can't wait for it to appear in 2012.
http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/02/...acer-for-2012/

DK

rich07 · 1 Mar 2011, 00:18 (Ref:2838209)

Fantastic news!

A worthy successor to the C8, looks unique in the Spyker way. Cant wait to see them with the new machine in 2012.

GTfour · 2 Mar 2011, 13:11 (Ref:2839043)

The car looks very impressive and I too love to see it in 2012.

One thing keeps on miggeling with me though. Why is traitor Muller keeping the Spyker name? I say, if one sells of the marque, one logically loses the name as well.

GTfour · 6 Mar 2011, 23:36 (Ref:2841212)

Good news for the marque, sad news for the dutch. Only the name now bears dutch heritage.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=23282

Tim the Grey · 7 Mar 2011, 12:36 (Ref:2841457)

Well, that has been how it is ever since they moved production to Coventry, over 2 years ago?

There's a C8 in the Coventry Motor Museum, right in the entrance. Welcoming 'Coventry's Newest Car Brand'...

nobster · 13 Dec 2011, 13:35 (Ref:2999163)

Well, it has been a long time since we heard anything about Spyker, is there someone among us who knows what will happen to them now? Still think it would be a shame if they were not to be seen anymore but I fear the worst since no news about Spyker is coming out anymore and the current Saab / swedish automobiles situation.

steve nielsen · 13 Dec 2011, 14:03 (Ref:2999173)

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Originally Posted by nobster

Well, it has been a long time since we heard anything about Spyker, is there someone among us who knows what will happen to them now? Still think it would be a shame if they were not to be seen anymore but I fear the worst since no news about Spyker is coming out anymore and the current Saab / swedish automobiles situation.

MR Antonov beeing in jail does'nt help much either

http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/legislation/?doc=49188

ger80 · 13 Dec 2011, 19:15 (Ref:2999305)

Swedish Auto sold the "sportscar Spyker" to American investment company North Street Capital. However Antonov owns Spyker supplier CPP ...
http://www.carsuk.net/spyker-uncerta...ancies-at-cpp/

jc_nl · 13 Dec 2011, 20:00 (Ref:2999335)

And their main sponsor was Snoras.......

Marcel ten Caat · 15 Dec 2011, 00:38 (Ref:2999998)

:-)

nobster · 8 Mar 2013, 08:05 (Ref:3215879)

http://www.topgear.nl/autonieuws/spy...nieuwsbrief589

So there is still life at Spyker... nice car let's see if it will ride some day.

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