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6 Oct 2005, 00:28 (Ref:1424884)
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Champ Car and Grand Am
Whoa! I certainly didn't see this one coming!
The Grand-Am Daytona Prototypes will be running with the ChampCars at next year's LongBeach GP! They'll be doing a 90-minute sprint race on the Saturday. Story here. Quote:
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6 Oct 2005, 01:53 (Ref:1424934)
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Somehow the thought of watching Daytona Prototypes parade around Long Beach doesn't seem all that appealing. Not exactly a DP friendly track...
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6 Oct 2005, 05:03 (Ref:1424999)
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I think they will put on a great race at LB. Can`t be worse than what Trans Am has done recently.
A sprint race for them though. It will have a driver changes as usual. |
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6 Oct 2005, 05:27 (Ref:1425006)
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Good that ChampCar has a foot in both the GrandAm and ALMS camps
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6 Oct 2005, 17:02 (Ref:1425522)
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The DP's are pretty small, smaller than the Audi R8 for sure. Should be fine around LB. Probably be more passing than the Champcar race since they can bang around a bit unlike the Champcars.
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6 Oct 2005, 17:38 (Ref:1425549)
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Audi 4.64x2 m DP specs 4.57x2 m |
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6 Oct 2005, 18:09 (Ref:1425594)
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Still smaller
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6 Oct 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1425655)
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Well, ok... but when did 2m wide by 4.6m long become "pretty small?"
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6 Oct 2005, 21:17 (Ref:1425729)
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I didn't realize the cars were 2m wide. That hardly seems condusive to the tight confines of LB.
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6 Oct 2005, 21:36 (Ref:1425749)
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I guess I should've done some homework first.
I've just checked on the ChampCar specs, and they are also 2m wide. For some reason, I've always thought them narrower than that. |
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6 Oct 2005, 23:06 (Ref:1425799)
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Maybe 2m is just narrower than you thought...
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6 Oct 2005, 23:25 (Ref:1425813)
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7 Oct 2005, 18:31 (Ref:1426720)
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Try pushing a champ car from the back wing, My arm span is just about 2m, and I'm certainly not stretching.
Something adrift somewere, hang on I'll get the rule book out. |
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7 Oct 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1426721)
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I was looking at the "specs" page of the CC website. Gave the dimension of 78.5", which converts to 1.99m. But that is the dimension from tire-to-tire, not of the rear wing.
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7 Oct 2005, 18:38 (Ref:1426726)
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Thanks MacD, just realised I have left my rule book in the UK as I was only working as course observer on the Vegas oval this trip.
I should be getting a definative tech crew answer in minutes! Sure it will agree with you, though I didn't realise the tread width was that much more. |
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7 Oct 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1426732)
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Just quickly scaling that car based on the wheelbase I see that the Champcars are likely to be 5.3 metres long! Compare that to the DPs or LMPs...
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7 Oct 2005, 19:31 (Ref:1426771)
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What we need now is for a clever guy to superimpose the DP drawing, then we will realise how similar they are!
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8 Oct 2005, 21:02 (Ref:1427621)
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Hey I just realised something..... Ganassi is coming back right..... and he runs cars in Grand Am....... hmmmm think there is any connection?
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