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I seem to remember Sam Collins on a Midweek Motorsport (or other bit of coverage) opining that a JGTC car at its prime showing up at Le Mans or anywhere else against LMS / ALMS opposition would absolutely clean their clocks. If we could have that counterfactual I'd totally book tickets to see it.
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The only real point of comparison are Fuji lap times when both series ran there in clear conditions. At their fastest, GT500 would have run the factory hybrids close. At Le Mans, I have my doubts that this would be directly replicated - GT500 run draggier than prototypes, even before taking low-downforce bodywork into contention. If it were to happen with LMH/LMDh, I reckon GT500 would do the business, even taking into account a relative lack of top speed. |
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Not to consider that 007 and GR010 at LM are in the range of >320-330km/h, which isn't a crazy top speed afterall. In my opinion if a GT500 would run at LM, it would lack of some top speed of course, but it would qualify under 3.20 without even pushing that hard.... in fast corners like porsche or tetre rouge would look like f1 compared to LMH, despite having almost the same weight. |
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What if a Super GT500 had the same fuel flow limiter as the Le Mans Hypercars?
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LMH don't use fuel flow anymore, power/torque curve is mandated by bop and max power is in the range of 670-700hp. Unlike GT500, fuel efficiency and in general fuel consume isn't a problem anymore since max stint is given by a max amount of allocated energy a stint measured through torquemeters placed on shaft/shafts... as consequence of this absolute value taken as reference, it doesn't matter how much fuel a car consumes as long it stays in that limit (infact toyota and glickenhaus have similiar stint length but toyota manages to do that with 20lt smaller fuel tank). Actual GT500 cars should be in the range of 90kg/h, something more something less according to regulations or to success handicap system, years ago when they were close to 100kg/h they had power close or above 650hp... it's impossible to say current power output but I think that despite a decreased fuel flow rate, toyota and honda NRE engines are still in that range of power since they constantly upgraded their pre-chamber ignition technology across the years. |
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I can't find the source at the moment, but some in Nascar aren't happy that Hendrick gets to run this project as they think it amounts to additional testing. They were also mad they had to find out about this via press release.
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In getting to grips with the hybrid system I can see that. It will also be beneficial overall for the series for testing that, but just getting used to it could be a help to Hendrick.
The only possible solution is to open it up to a proper class and allow them all to run. Too many Orecas and Ferraris? This is your solution. Too many stock cars. |
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Quite candid story about the displeasure of Toyota and Ford in NASCAR working privately with GM on the G56 entry.
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Ha, I bet it caused some, er, surprise. Nice that Toyota were actually at Sebring when it was announced. Did seem to come from nowhere for them.
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I think the selection committee has enough of a problem without adding 3 auto entries for NASCAR!
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