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12 Jul 2010, 06:12 (Ref:2725236)
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'10 LMS Round 3 • Portimão • July 16th - 17th
’10 LMS Round 3 • Portimão Algarve - Portugal
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12 Jul 2010, 06:42 (Ref:2725244)
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Eurosport will give us 30 mins of live coverage at 22:30 british time on Saturday night! Why do they bother?
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13 Jul 2010, 15:10 (Ref:2726142)
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Mansell on the poster, oh well...
With only 4 LMP1 and a lot of Formula Le Mans on the entry, people will have to stop ALMS bashing :-p Ben |
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13 Jul 2010, 19:02 (Ref:2726240)
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I don't even see why they bother either. For you guys in Europe its likely Europlayer will be available. Considering how much they ask for entry feeds into the 24h race, I know MONEY is not an issue. |
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13 Jul 2010, 18:35 (Ref:2726231)
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No BMW's?
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13 Jul 2010, 18:54 (Ref:2726237)
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Guess they want to save the cars for the 24 hours at Spa...
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13 Jul 2010, 19:03 (Ref:2726241)
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14 Jul 2010, 04:13 (Ref:2726385)
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Endurance-Info reporting that ACO has given Petrol-powered LMP1s a 4% larger restrictor starting this weekend.. It could spice things up, especially at ILMC races later this year!
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14 Jul 2010, 19:21 (Ref:2726722)
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The ILMC races will be interesting but so to the 2011 P1 restrictors.
A 4% increase is more than just a tweak. |
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14 Jul 2010, 21:04 (Ref:2726786)
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Anyone think that the air restrictor increase is due to the LMP2 cars showing up the gasoline LMP1s at Spa as much as the diesel dominance?
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14 Jul 2010, 21:06 (Ref:2726787)
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14 Jul 2010, 23:13 (Ref:2726845)
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The Strakka car barring somebody from putting in it off course somehow, I don't see them being headed. 4% was put there to help The Lolas.... |
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15 Jul 2010, 22:50 (Ref:2727336)
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Well, that proves the point, as well as the fact that you need factory support to run a factory built car-look at how much Kolles has struggled with their R10s, as well as the fact that Kolles hired pay drivers and gentleman drivers for his cars(though the phrase pay driver shouldn't be used so loosely-even Allan McNish and Tom Kristensen bring personal endorsement sponsors to Audi, and last year Sebastian Bourdais brought Red Bull money with him to Peugeot).
The private Audi R8 teams, namely Champion were de-facto factory teams, like de Ferran and Highcroft were with Acura last years(listed as privateer teams by IMSA, but basically factory teams in all but name), and Highcroft is a Honda Racing/HPD factory team in all but name now. The Judd V10 is now about 20 years old, and so is Kristen Stewart. While Kristen is 20 years old literally and metaphorically, the Judd V10 in engine terms compared to Audi's V10-be it gas or diesel-dates back to the industrial revolution in technical terms. And add to that there are no serious factory or privateer turbocharged gasoline engined efforts aside from the AER V8 that's only used in the ALMS. You can't beat a factory teams' cubic dollars and research-Audi and Peugeot are able to claim 2008-esque power and torque figures in 2010 inspite of a 12% smaller air restrctor and about 10% less turbo boost. That's factory R&D right there, something that the likes of John Judd can't afford and other factories aren't willing/able to spend. And all we have to do is look at the Audi R8-within a year of a 10% air restrictor cut, they were nearly as fast as in 2002, and set a new disance record in 2004(which the Audi R10(twice), Peugeot 908, and the Audi R15 shattered in '06, '08, '09, and '10). This is factory vs privateer, pure and simple, as we all know that if Audi and Peugeot ran gasoline engined cars(a la the Audi R8 and Bentley Speed 8), they'd dominate just as much. Simply put, you can't keep up with a car who's chassis and engine was designed in 2008 with a car that was designed in 2008 and has an engine that aside from displacment bumps hasn't really been updated in nearly 20 years. |
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15 Jul 2010, 23:00 (Ref:2727342)
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Except, a privateer should still be able to get close on pace for one lap. In LMP1, they're NOT!
And, unfortunately, if racing has become "entertainment", as so many say it has, you simply cannot afford to allow anybody to dominate for long, regardless of the reasons. I don't see a good chance of another factory team joining the fray at this point. If you're going with petrol, Audi has seven years with that, and for diesel, Audi has coming up on five years with that. No factory, Audi included, has made more than a three-year, initial commitment to Le Mans in over a decade. The 1999 R8Rs and R8Cs were testbeds. The first serious program was with the R8 in 2000-2002. Last edited by Purist; 15 Jul 2010 at 23:07. |
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16 Jul 2010, 11:02 (Ref:2727489)
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Live coverage of practice underway on Radio Le Mans
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16 Jul 2010, 15:49 (Ref:2727620)
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RLM is up for the second session now.
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16 Jul 2010, 16:07 (Ref:2727632)
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yeah that's cool!!!
"Le Mans" style start for the 1000 Km of Algarve competitors For the very first time since the creation of Le Mans Series, drivers will take a start "Le Mans" style. This third round of the season is then the occasion to revive the most glorious time of Endurance. http://www.lemans-series.com/en/s03_....php?news=1425 |
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I just realized that qualifying is on the same day as the race. How often does that happen in a pro series?
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16 Jul 2010, 20:21 (Ref:2727763)
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RLM s up for the last practice session!
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17 Jul 2010, 14:35 (Ref:2728008)
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qualy results
Pug-Oreca: 1:30.681 Lapierre Rebellion: 1:30.937 Neel is something going on wrong on pugs again ???? btw, any chance for a live streaming from Portimão ???? |
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17 Jul 2010, 14:50 (Ref:2728009)
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I hope so, i dont think the 30 minutes Eurosport is showing at 10:30pm is even live. Eurosport seem to have dropped the ball this summer with their motorsport coverage, with less WTCC live, less LMS Live, Less GP2, Less Porsche Supercup etc.
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P-1 petrols got a 4% restrictor break. L.P.
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any hope about justin tv?wish there's another channel cover the event and someone here is kindly enough to have a copy of live on justin
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