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14 Oct 2002, 09:00 (Ref:403563)
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Peter Perfect or Peter Past It?
Should Brock have another go next year or call it a day for good this time? |
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14 Oct 2002, 09:12 (Ref:403578)
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Peter Passed it?
No.I don't think so. It was purely a publicity exercise and a very successful one at that. You gotta admit he had balls coming back into the thick of it after so long. He did just fine as far as I'm concerned! |
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14 Oct 2002, 09:31 (Ref:403586)
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I don't think he's past it either. Had he been in either of the HRT cars, he would've made the podium. Gathering from the telecast, Team Brock just couldn't hit on the right setup, and if you haven't got that, you've got no chance against the current opposition. If he does come back next year, it could be better - two cars, Peter paired with James?
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14 Oct 2002, 09:34 (Ref:403587)
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Yes, Brock was basically saying the car wasn't perfect and he was just there to give it a go and have another drive around the track he made his own. He didnt go there to win. He went there to have fun. He did have fun, therefore its a success.
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14 Oct 2002, 09:38 (Ref:403588)
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Shame he wasn't in an HRT car with Jim Richards,the 2 old guys could have kicked butt.
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14 Oct 2002, 09:44 (Ref:403595)
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Because they don't issue individual driver times, we have no way of knowing who set what time, but during the race the 05 car set 19th fastest time - 1.8560 seconds off the new lap record set by John Bowe.
Call Brock what you like, BUT, he still has what it takes t get the best out of a car - the car itself wasn't up to it - the drivers were. So yes - put him in a reliable fast car and I think he would show a few of the young guns a thing or two... |
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14 Oct 2002, 09:53 (Ref:403600)
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I think Peter Brock would consider the weekend a success with all the merchandise he sold & the sponsorship the team got for the race plus he also made it to the chequered flag which is an achievement in itself.
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14 Oct 2002, 10:20 (Ref:403620)
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One thing I will give Brock credit for- he did it with a recently rooted back. He was completely stuffed on the Australian Safari a few weeks ago (agony and couldn't stand up), but he made it through the race ok.
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14 Oct 2002, 10:50 (Ref:403659)
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Brockie may not have what it takes, theres a lot of feirce competiton out there, so for him to give it a go was really great, and he was great on TV too, saying oh its a bit of fun, and he didn't take it real bad, he was having fun, and giving it a go. So good on him, and hopefully they got some good data, and they can keep improving! and they sell a killer amount of merchandise!!
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14 Oct 2002, 11:25 (Ref:403680)
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Consider in race trim the Brock car was faster than Morris/Wakefield, Cleland, McConville, Seton, McLean, Larkham...
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14 Oct 2002, 12:10 (Ref:403734)
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No point being fast if you can't make it to the finish though...
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14 Oct 2002, 12:53 (Ref:403784)
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I think it was great to see Brock back in the car, particularly as it was the anniversary and all.
And he didn't do too bad either while driving, and showed that he is still as quick as ever. But it was all publicity, although the crowd certainly didn't think so, they lapped it up!! |
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14 Oct 2002, 12:55 (Ref:403787)
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I'd say give it another go next year. I wasn't really for him making this comeback, but as Grice said about himself, he'll have to come back again next year, can't finish off like that.
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14 Oct 2002, 13:08 (Ref:403800)
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The point is he DID have mechanical problems, he WAS able to finish the event and he WAS quicker than 50% of the field. If you look at his lap times you will see Brocks times were remarkably consistent - around the time he set their fastest lap: 2:11.4265 2:11.6609 2:11.7128 2:11.8628 2:12.6251 2:14.2331 |
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14 Oct 2002, 13:10 (Ref:403804)
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Ah apologies, of course they made it to the finish.
Can Morris be blamed for a flat tyre? I don't think he was the only one.... |
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14 Oct 2002, 13:19 (Ref:403812)
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Think you missed my point here....
Flat tyre or not - the fact is Morris/Wakefield didn't finish. Like the other thread about the Jones Bolt, what happened as a consequence of the tyre going flat is something else again - this happened to a number of cars - some managed to finish, others didn't. He proved he stil has what it takes to race at Bathurst - not bad for an old *******. Whether he still has the will to win is something else - bt he definately now enjoys what he is doing. And maybe that's the difference with him that some don;t like - he actually seemed to be enjoying himself... Now if only he could talk Moffat into joining him next year - after all - only the body shell will really differentiate between a Ford or a Holden... 
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14 Oct 2002, 13:37 (Ref:403835)
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Armco Bender , just read the bottom of main page - Happy Birthday.
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14 Oct 2002, 20:37 (Ref:404204)
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Oh yeah it is too!Thanks very much,I'll buy this round,what are you all having
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14 Oct 2002, 21:40 (Ref:404257)
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What is the history of the car that Team Brock owns ? It's not an ex HRT car or anything like that is it ? Is it Mezeras old VT updated ?
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14 Oct 2002, 21:53 (Ref:404278)
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Over all leadup practice sessions Baird was in the high 10s whilst Brock was in the low 12s . . . and he had a lot more time in the car.
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15 Oct 2002, 06:17 (Ref:404460)
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That car SHOULD have been retired before the end, Brock should of known better than that, I think I saw that car lapped about 4 or 5 times in the last 15 minutes of the race!!
As for the histroy of the car, it is one of the two Rod Nash Racing cars built 2 years ago. Afterall the team is Rod Nash Racing with Brock and Harrop now being part owners along with Rod Nash, who is still majority owner. |
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The fact they could drive it at a speed top make the car actually finish is a credit to them anyway - expecially when you consider some of the cars that DIDN'T finish - Morris, Seton, Lowndes, Wilson, McDougal, Tander, Whincup etc etc |
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15 Oct 2002, 10:52 (Ref:404678)
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Car 05's lap times after its last pit stop:
2:50.5262 2:48.2804 2:57.7014 2:51.3116 3:07.4835 4:27.5585 4:05.6154 2:54.9465 3:01.2796 3:07.7896 3:08.6947 3:34.0714 3:00.4662 2:58.4313 2:57.4740 2:54.7980 2:55.5546 2:55.7787 2:52.7338 2:51.0774 2:49.0498 2:50.0890 2:48.4971 2:55.0291 How slow is too slow, and a danger on a track like Bathurst? Heck, Patto's Torana would have hosed it in that last stint! |
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15 Oct 2002, 10:56 (Ref:404683)
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Ok hes made a come back, Got some sponsers, Everyone knows his team, Everyone brought some Mechindise, No need to come back again after that. Plus sorry to say but a bit too slow and kinda lost his speed
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