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15 Dec 2019, 13:58 (Ref:3946838) | #753 | ||
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So, no logics in that "balance" after all. If it would take into account the real speed, not just positions, it would have had a tiny excuse. What's next? Remote control of technical failures for #7 and #8? If they are going to slow them down again, Conway and Co will run without cars at all. |
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They made a lot of effort to ensure I couldn't watch the race, and succeeded.
I saw the entire 3'04" highlights of the race on motorsport.tv Maybe I should call myself lucky that I was forbidden to watch it and used my time doing something useful instead. ? You take out the leader and get no penalty? Impressive, that in typical FIA/ACO style... |
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Or they will force Toyota to swap TS050 for spec Oreca 07 and slap Hybrid-stickers to the car How about joker laps and reference lap times? So much fun stuff Creventic could teach us |
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16 Dec 2019, 00:39 (Ref:3946913) | #758 | |
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Both Toyota's will be at maximum success penalties. I don't know what that is but they'll still find a way to win, and, the others find ways to lose.
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16 Dec 2019, 13:04 (Ref:3946966) | #759 | |
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Yes that is true....you know I was going to say something else. But WEC is so uninteresting this year. And that includes my previously beloved GTE Pro class. Won't bother typing anything else.
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16 Dec 2019, 14:58 (Ref:3946982) | #760 | ||
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Actually GTE-Pro is pretty interesting even though the field is pretty small right now. Porsche seem dominant but it was like IMSA where they benefited from having a fast car and (until Bahrain) also catching all the breaks. AMR now lead the driver's championship and are up there in the manufacturer's championship. A total 180 from last season where they only preformed well or got good results from rain impacted races. They now have speed and consistency in all conditions.
Also shows what impact AMR's late decision last year before the start of the season to switch from Dunlop (now Goodyear) to Michelin made, as they struggled to understand the new Michelin rubber. Now they fully understand it just as well as Porsche and Ferrari. |
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16 Dec 2019, 17:15 (Ref:3947000) | #761 | |
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And I doubt we'll see a new CR-8 joining the GTE party for Sebring as the car is so new. Hope I'll be wrong though!
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16 Dec 2019, 23:43 (Ref:3947056) | #762 | |
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That would be awesome, but I too doubt it. I'm glad Aston is doing well. There were some doubts about it's car last year, but seems they've got on top of it and I'm sure Michelin is one of the big reasons for the turnaround.
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17 Dec 2019, 00:22 (Ref:3947061) | #763 | ||
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We do have to remember that AMR made the switch back to Michelin very late in the run up to the 2018 season after testing on both Dunlop and Michelin back to back, and got little testing before the start of the season to fully optimize the car for the new Michelin tires for '18/19. Or at least that's what it seemed and felt like to me from the outside looking in.
Also probably explains in part their struggles at LM in '18 (had speed in the corners and in braking, and was gentle on tires, but had a lot of drag down the straights) and '19 (had single lap pace and good top speed, but couldn't keep the tires fully under them during a long run). |
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19 Dec 2019, 19:02 (Ref:3947608) | #764 | ||
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Are you sure? They might do what they did for Bahrain and establish a reference car that will make them run with different level of penalties again (which is so ridiculous for two equal cars).
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20 Dec 2019, 03:21 (Ref:3947658) | #765 | |
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I'm thinking they should because both are at the same amount of wins. But I'm not sure exactly. Seems more complicated than it should be.
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20 Dec 2019, 10:16 (Ref:3947686) | #766 | |
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There's only 3 races left for Ginetta to win a race... Because obviously they're not gonna win LM, and next year, the final year of eligibility, they shall receive politically unfavorable bop against the hyperwagons if they are to continue in the first place. So time is running out
Maybe they could enter Thunderhill 25 Hours or something in the future though. I wish they would, that is proper old school racing and not entertainment focused Last edited by Deleted; 20 Dec 2019 at 10:22. |
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This is how they calculated it for Bahrain. "That is despite both Japanese cars lying more than 40 points ahead of the last-placed car in the championship classification. The explanation of the new system introduced for the LMP1 class this season issued in August states that "the maximum performance reduction applied may not be greater than the equivalent of 40 points". But it is understood that when the gap to the lowest points scorer is more than that amount the handicaps are calculated from a 'virtual' last-placed car lying 40 points behind the championship leader. The three-point gap between #8 and #7 would explain the 0.21s differential in the handicaps between the two Toyotas based on this criterion." There is now an eight-point gap between #7 and #8. I expect to see #7 having a difference against almost 3 times worst than the #8 had in Bahrain. Which means, there will be no fight between both Toyotas. |
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Corvette entering COTA: http://www.dailysportscar.com/2019/1...cota-race.html
Good to see GM going out of it's way to enter a WEC race when there's no IMSA race sharing the weekend. Hopefully bodes well for a Sebring 1000 entry as well. |
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20 Dec 2019, 15:37 (Ref:3947745) | #769 | ||
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We do have to remember that Doug Fehan admitted last year that last season's WEC outings came as a result partly of pressure from the ACO for being automatically granted two entries for LM and for BOP purposes for LM. Same deal probably applies here.
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20 Dec 2019, 17:38 (Ref:3947763) | #770 | |
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Pressure? Blackmail is the proper word, especially when directed towards factory team that's the only OEM to have supported the event for 20 years straight
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They could've easily let one of the Corvettes to rot in the reserve list in favor of spec Oreca 07 or GTE-AM AF Corse satellite team. That would've "shown em"
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22 Dec 2019, 07:55 (Ref:3947996) | #774 | |
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I don't know, I think Corvette has more pull than what we assume.
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WEC 2019/20 season
I see the WEC race for them as a chance to get more mileage with the new car before the biggest race of the year. There’s probably some pressure from ACO but at the end of the day Le Mans needs the Corvettes more than the Corvettes need Le Mans...I get the feeling that the team would love to do WEC but their hands are tied as it’s not their decision to make. I think even the ACO could understand that. And if you look at how poorly GM are doing outside of America then from a marketing perspective it makes sense to stick with IMSA.
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