Ferrari 458 Italia (merged)

WMUCarGuy · 28 Jul 2009, 17:22 (Ref:2510076)

Ferrari unveiled the details of it's F430 replacement today along with a few photos. The car won't be officially unveiled until September at the Frankfurt Auto Show, but I have to say I find what I see promising. I haven't really loved a modern Ferrari since the F355, but this car looks like it has potential, although I'm not sure about the interior!

I'd imagine a GT2 version is on its way as well!

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/28/o...he-458-italia/

ROB IS THE STIG · 28 Jul 2009, 17:31 (Ref:2510080)

WOW i love that!!

A bit of Lambo Gallardo from the front, which is definite praise!!

Dead-Eye · 28 Jul 2009, 18:24 (Ref:2510109)

I loved it until I saw the triple exhaust. That's just stupid.

terence · 28 Jul 2009, 18:39 (Ref:2510119)

The best to have left the stable in a long while!

ROB IS THE STIG · 28 Jul 2009, 18:43 (Ref:2510121)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

I loved it until I saw the triple exhaust. That's just stupid.

Oh i quite like it, Ferrari F40 style!!

Graz · 29 Jul 2009, 16:03 (Ref:2510871)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

I loved it until I saw the triple exhaust. That's just stupid.

Oh behave!

crazy · 29 Jul 2009, 17:01 (Ref:2510898)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

I loved it until I saw the triple exhaust. That's just stupid.

Exactly my reaction. The third exhaust served a purpose on the F40 and fake exhaust are on the list of things I hate. Still best looking Ferrari since the Enzo to me.

The Badger · 28 Jul 2009, 19:34 (Ref:2510148)

Oh man , are they thinking about a GT2 effort with this . Its a beauty .

Macross · 28 Jul 2009, 22:51 (Ref:2510299)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Oh man , are they thinking about a GT2 effort with this . Its a beauty .

Risi Competizione told Speed TV that they are going to get F458 GT in 2011, before that they will still run a new F430 gt2 in 2010, which has new aerodynamic bodykit, new ECU and tyre.

HORNDAWG · 28 Jul 2009, 23:46 (Ref:2510330)

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Originally Posted by Macross

Risi Competizione told Speed TV that they are going to get F458 GT in 2011, before that they will still run a new F430 gt2 in 2010, which has new aerodynamic bodykit, new ECU and tyre.

Hmm, when and where was this? Last I recall, Guiseppe Risi said that 09 would probably be the last full year of the 430. In an interview

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“This year we, again, have some great drivers,” he says. “This racing has gotten tougher. There’s nothing wrong with that and it’s a special year for us because it’s probably the last full year with the Ferrari F430. It’s been a fabulous race car, probably one of the best GT cars Ferrari has ever made. So we certainly want to let the so-called Old Lady go out in style.”

Here

L.P.

Macross · 29 Jul 2009, 00:12 (Ref:2510340)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Hmm, when and where was this? Last I recall, Guiseppe Risi said that 09 would probably be the last full year of the 430. In an interview Here

L.P.

The answer is here, i hope i didn't get it wrong...
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...iday-notebook/

chewymonster · 28 Jul 2009, 20:54 (Ref:2510208)

I think the F430 looks better, but the engine is a lot better now. Should be able to keep up with the LP 560. More power and better fuel economy thanks to direct injection. More thoughts below.

http://killwithfire.blogspot.com/200...58-italia.html

HORNDAWG · 28 Jul 2009, 20:58 (Ref:2510213)

Sorry, the 458 IMO looks much better than the 430! If it actually holds true to the illustrations.

L.P.

**Adam43** · 28 Jul 2009, 21:01 (Ref:2510216)

I like the lack of overhang. I liked that on the McLaren F1 too.
A good looking car. Ferrari's can look a little plastic nowadays, I have a good feeling that this one will be good in the flesh too.

old man · 5 Aug 2009, 09:17 (Ref:2515990)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I like the lack of overhang. I liked that on the McLaren F1 too.
A good looking car. Ferrari's can look a little plastic nowadays, I have a good feeling that this one will be good in the flesh too.

For the McLaren racer they lengthened the tail and I have models of both on my bookcase, the road car looks wrong IMO against the race version. Wonder if that will happen here?

Tim the Grey · 5 Aug 2009, 09:45 (Ref:2516010)

I am pretty sure they can't do that!

Splatz the Cow · 12 Aug 2009, 07:24 (Ref:2520016)

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Originally Posted by old man

For the McLaren racer they lengthened the tail and I have models of both on my bookcase, the road car looks wrong IMO against the race version. Wonder if that will happen here?

No. They did not.

Maybe you should sell those model cars hey, get ones you understand first. Spend 20 seconds on google to find out your facts first - it is worth the effort.

Dead-Eye · 14 Aug 2009, 18:07 (Ref:2521495)

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Originally Posted by Splatz the Cow

No. They did not.

Except for the ones where they did (1997 version). There's nothing in the post you quoted that says they did it from the beginning or on all cars - so you're not only rude, but wrong as well.

Splatz the Cow · 25 Aug 2009, 12:04 (Ref:2527872)

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Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

Except for the ones where they did (1997 version). There's nothing in the post you quoted that says they did it from the beginning or on all cars - so you're not only rude, but wrong as well.

McLaren built the F1 roadcar first obviously. Then based on that car entered cars for racing in 1995, that were lightly modified road cars.

They then modified the the 1995 race cars to be better for 1996, and these 1996 cars, were reflected in the road F1 LM cars right.

Then the 1997 GTR car was not based off the F1 road car, but the F1 GT (road car.) So again the race version in 1997, was still the same body length as the road car it was based on.

So it doesn't matter whether he specifies the year or not, because it is still wrong.

The McLaren racecar was never longer then the road car.

MJ_N_09 · 28 Jul 2009, 21:34 (Ref:2510237)

Oh my god.....

It's a mini Enzo!!!!!!!! Can you imagine a Ferrari 458 GTC?

cmk · 28 Jul 2009, 22:45 (Ref:2510297)

OK but I preferred the 430. Really need to see some more 'realistic' images though.

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

It's a mini Enzo!!!!!!!! Can you imagine a Ferrari 458 GTC?

Given that I tend to think the Enzo looks like a dog's breakfast compared to the MC12, perhaps this is the root of my distaste.

Purist · 28 Jul 2009, 23:18 (Ref:2510314)

I'm just not a big fan of the Gallardo/Enzo/F430 look. The proportions are just wrong (the Lambo), or the thing looks like they just slapped fenders on a formula car (Enzo), or they look too clinical (both Ferraris).

The F599 is NOT pudgy, and looks better than this, IMO. It also looks better than the F612 Scaglietti. Now if you want to call a Jaguar S-Type bulbous or pudgy, fair enough.

rich07 · 28 Jul 2009, 23:55 (Ref:2510335)

Utterly gorgeous!! I dont like the triple exhaust though.

Cant wait to see this in GT2!

Gingers4Justice · 12 Aug 2009, 12:14 (Ref:2520199)

There's a lot more space to play around with aerodynamics for a potential GT car compared to the 430. And that thing looks to have a low centre of gravity. Yum.

Dead-Eye · 29 Jul 2009, 00:15 (Ref:2510342)

Says the same thing... "the F450 GT is not likely to be built in time for the start of the 2010 ALMS/LMS seasons"

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