[LM24] Jaguar's comeback?

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by minimangler

XKR GT1 now, perhaps

I think it could (SHOULD) happen.

But only if Stephane Ratel sorts some GT rules with the FIA and ACO.

Sorry Stephane, but sort it out :@

Ratel just needs to ACCEPT that the FIA and ACO set the rules. He, SRO is a race PROMOTOR, not a rule maker

[minimangler]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Ratel just needs to ACCEPT that the FIA and ACO set the rules. He, SRO is a race PROMOTOR, not a rule maker

I know, I know.

But he's a nice target. Lovely hair.

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by minimangler

XKR GT1 now, perhaps

I think it could (SHOULD) happen.

But only if Stephane Ratel sorts some GT rules with the FIA and ACO.

Sorry Stephane, but sort it out :@

Presumably you won't be expecting any credentials for SRO meetings in the future then?

Was that insult really necessary?

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

In my opinion, for what ever that meansm, scrap the luxo crap, gut the son of a gun, cloth seats, no radio, minimal computer aids, minimal carpet, short gear ratio linked to a V8 or V10. 450-500 bhp.

You don't reckon grace, space and pace then?

or V12...

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

You don't reckon grace, space and pace then?

or V12...

hmmmm V12


Grace, space, and pace are for old ppl. Give me pure grunt.

[johntt]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

hmmmm V12


Grace, space, and pace are for old ppl. Give me pure grunt.

Pure grunt you say sir? May i suggest the amazing Chevrolet Corvette Z06 :


Want one

Seriously, Jag has always been about grace, space and pace. They had that right until they failed to keep ahead with design (S-Type anyone?) and tried to be like BMW (X-Type anyone?).

Now they are back on track and have new owners a sportscar programme would do wonders to turn their image around.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by johntt

Pure grunt you say sir? May i suggest the amazing Chevrolet Corvette Z06 :


Want one

.

Have one, and two others

[Dani Filth]

but who would be the present's "TWR" ???
i can't see Jag doing the racing themselves

[johntt]

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

but who would be the present's "TWR" ???
i can't see Jag doing the racing themselves

Apex Motorsport, the guys behind the Bentley Speed 8 and current XKR GT3 package.

[Adam43]

Fine, pure grunt. I get it. However that isn't what Jaguar is about, and never was. It should still do the grunt, but combine it with finese and a bit of decent workmanship. Just grunt, would be too simple for Jaguar.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Fine, pure grunt. I get it. However that isn't what Jaguar is about, and never was. It should still do the grunt, but combine it with finese and a bit of decent workmanship. Just grunt, would be too simple for Jaguar.

Jaguar with decent workmanship? Hope you guys get better Jags then we get here in the states. The workmanship was marganal at best and mechanical relabilty is very poor.

I wish Jaguar brand and their new owner much success in the business and racing.

[minimangler]

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

but who would be the present's "TWR" ???
i can't see Jag doing the racing themselves

Apex, or maybe RML, or even Lola.

[minimangler]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Presumably you won't be expecting any credentials for SRO meetings in the future then?

Was that insult really necessary?

Sorry, I was out of line there.

One step too far

[bil588]

Unless I heard wrong, (I was reading Mario Andretti's thoughts on the unified IndyCar Series) one team is thinking of racing the Jaguar XK (likely XKR) in the SCCA Speed World Challenge GT class. I just heard this on the Speed Report on tv. The SCCA needs to balance the performance of the cars before the first race like the SRO does with the FIA GT3 Championship.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by bil588

Unless I heard wrong, (I was reading Mario Andretti's thoughts on the unified IndyCar Series) one team is thinking of racing the Jaguar XK (likely XKR) in the SCCA Speed World Challenge GT class. I just heard this on the Speed Report on tv. The SCCA needs to balance the performance of the cars before the first race like the SRO does with the FIA GT3 Championship.

There's also a rumor about Jaguars in Rolex GT, the announcers at the Mid-Ohio race made it sound like it could be Rocketsports.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Jaguar with decent workmanship? Hope you guys get better Jags then we get here in the states. The workmanship was marganal at best and mechanical relabilty is very poor.

I presumed that was by design to match the important US market

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I presumed that was by design to match the important US market

LOL

[JAG]

Originally Posted by johntt

Seriously, Jag has always been about grace, space and pace. They had that right until they failed to keep ahead with design (S-Type anyone?) and tried to be like BMW (X-Type anyone?).

Now they are back on track and have new owners a sportscar programme would do wonders to turn their image around.

+1

At last they have the road car range, they've had a taste with the Apex GT3 XKR-R, and the 20th Anniversary of the '88 Le Mans win, plus the publicity Aston Martin recieves from the DBR9 and Lola P1.

You have to admit, a Jaguar Le Mans program is exactly what they need.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

but who would be the present's "TWR" ???
i can't see Jag doing the racing themselves

Apex or RML, with a Jaguar motor prepared by Cosworth, based on the XKR-R GT3 V8, possibly turbocharged.

Or a diesel!

Apex, or maybe RML, or even Lola.

Edit, Sorry, posted before I even read your post, great minds and all that!

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

LOL

You have a point, Jaguar's quality hasn't always been what it should have been and that perception remains. Something an endurance Le Mans win can't hurt in changing(?).

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

You have a point, Jaguar's quality hasn't always been what it should have been and that perception remains. Something an endurance Le Mans win can't hurt in changing(?).

Adam I agree

I hope Jag comes back to racing, in a big way. We all would love to see that. Both in GT and LMP racing.

Customer service and quality are very very imporant in todays auto market. If some company is just marginal on quality and customer service, the consumer will go buy an other brand.

As far as there normal street cars go, from 30 feet they are just darn drop dead gorgous cars. Get up close, heck my wife wanted a Jag real bad, but she saw paint flaws on three just sitting in the dealers lot.

Not that We were going to get her one, she just really loves driving the 3500 pick up truck, just cant park that beast any place.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by JAG

+1

At last they have the road car range, they've had a taste with the Apex GT3 XKR-R, and the 20th Anniversary of the '88 Le Mans win, plus the publicity Aston Martin recieves from the DBR9 and Lola P1.

You have to admit, a Jaguar Le Mans program is exactly what they need.

Until Aston Martin went racing with the DBR9 they have always been in the shadow of Jaguar. If Jaguar had built a LMP1 or GT1 instead of the F1 project I think they had gained much more at their target buyers. I think Jaguar buyers aren't F1 fans.

[Speed-King]

Hmm, I'm not sure if Tata are willing to put a lot of money into a Jaguar racing programme at the moment. From what I read, Tata's main interest was the Land Rover brand and not the cat and they considered reselling Jaguar to another investor.

[minimangler]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

There's also a rumor about Jaguars in Rolex GT, the announcers at the Mid-Ohio race made it sound like it could be Rocketsports.

They ran the Transams, right?

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by minimangler

They ran the Transams, right?

Yes, Rocketsports (Paul Gentilozzi) ran the Jaguar in TransAm. Of the tube frame full race variety.



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