WEC Rebellion Racing - Page 78

TF110 · 3 May 2018, 20:31 (Ref:3819249)

The #3 car has been the faster of the two so far this weekend as well. So much for those upgrades, unless they haven't been trying that hard.

chernaudi · 4 May 2018, 18:45 (Ref:3819502)

I wonder what pace that Rebellion can run with a race set up relative to Toyota. We do have to remember that they were fastest overall in FP3 and Toyota will undoubtedly lose more pace relative to qualifying come the race.

TF110 · 4 May 2018, 18:48 (Ref:3819505)

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Originally Posted by TF110

The #3 car has been the faster of the two so far this weekend as well. So much for those upgrades, unless they haven't been trying that hard.

Just as I say this, they switch and the #1 beats the #3 in qualifying.

**Bentley03** · 5 May 2018, 07:42 (Ref:3819579)

A bit of a zebrafest from Spa

Akrapovic · 5 May 2018, 07:56 (Ref:3819581)

Pretty nice sounding car that.

S griffin · 5 May 2018, 10:35 (Ref:3819602)

Yeah, how a sportscar should sound

RedSquirrel · 5 May 2018, 10:39 (Ref:3819605)

It does sound nice.
That shot at 1:33. Loud Rebellion and loud Ford when suddenly a wild RSR appears! RSR uses flat six howl. It's super effective!

JoeW04 · 5 May 2018, 11:20 (Ref:3819619)

The cars look & sound great, I know who I'll be supporting this year!

Irie · 5 May 2018, 12:59 (Ref:3819701)

Lotterer says the car is not easy to drive but already going fast

Deleted · 5 May 2018, 13:02 (Ref:3819705)

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Originally Posted by Irie

Lotterer says the car is not easy to drive but already going fast

Yeah especially considering it's only third time it's been run

Balance and temperature and whatever that may be irritating him now can be sorted out just by running more

Looking good for LM

TF110 · 5 May 2018, 18:19 (Ref:3820120)

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Originally Posted by Irie

Lotterer says the car is not easy to drive but already going fast

That Oreca chassis is a good base. The aero on the car (at least the top aero) doesn't look like it's a big change from the lmp2. Wider rear wing and diveplanes. But 100kg lighter than the p2 car and 100hp more definitely helps out. No wonder they're so fast. Once they get this car together, look out. Same thing with the other private cars.

EffectiveSprinkles · 5 May 2018, 18:20 (Ref:3820123)

Not a bad debut I would say. Best of the privateer P1s, good pace and not too many big problems. They will feature at Le Mans I'm sure of it.

chernaudi · 5 May 2018, 18:22 (Ref:3820125)

If not for a couple of problems and if they were a bit quicker in the pits, they should be right where they need to be. They already were today keeping Toyota honest.

Maybe going back to a halfway house between Prologue and Spa EOT might help as well.

TF110 · 5 May 2018, 18:26 (Ref:3820126)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chernaudi

If not for a couple of problems and if they were a bit quicker in the pits, they should be right where they need to be. They already were today keeping Toyota honest.

Maybe going back to a halfway house between Prologue and Spa EOT might help as well.

There's no need to do that. They go back to the EOT and the car continues it's forward progress it'll leave Toyota in the dust. That's not what the equivalence is supposed to be. I'd love to see these cars let loose a little more, but they'll be too fast for the EOT that's already preset for the Toyota.

broadrun96 · 5 May 2018, 23:12 (Ref:3820192)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

That Oreca chassis is a good base. The aero on the car (at least the top aero) doesn't look like it's a big change from the lmp2. Wider rear wing and diveplanes. But 100kg lighter than the p2 car and 100hp more definitely helps out. No wonder they're so fast. Once they get this car together, look out. Same thing with the other private cars.

Do we know if the P2 Oreca needs ballast to get to minimum weight so that can be removed for the P1 effort? I'm assuming lighter suspension and other bits can make up some of the difference as well.

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NSX_LeMans · 5 May 2018, 23:43 (Ref:3820195)

Oreca 07 weights 855kg without ballast.

TF110 · 6 May 2018, 01:51 (Ref:3820208)

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Originally Posted by NSX_LeMans

Oreca 07 weights 855kg without ballast.

Really? I remember reading an article saying they wouldn't have trouble meeting the 833kg weight for lmp1 because the 07 has a lot of ballast to make it 930kg.

broadrun96 · 6 May 2018, 02:59 (Ref:3820213)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Really? I remember reading an article saying they wouldn't have trouble meeting the 833kg weight for lmp1 because the 07 has a lot of ballast to make it 930kg.

But they could make that difference with parts required for LMP2 durability. Moving to LMP1 could lighten it enough to remove all ballast. Especially since Oreca seems to have the best grip on LMP construction lately, by a wide margin

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AdrianM · 6 May 2018, 08:32 (Ref:3820252)

https://www.autosport.com/wec/news/1...d-loses-podium

Shame, but rules are rules.

Deleted · 6 May 2018, 11:31 (Ref:3820303)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

There's no need to do that. They go back to the EOT and the car continues it's forward progress it'll leave Toyota in the dust. That's not what the equivalence is supposed to be. I'd love to see these cars let loose a little more, but they'll be too fast for the EOT that's already preset for the Toyota.

I guess we'll never know as it's unlikely privateers will be getting boost any time soon

TF110 · 6 May 2018, 17:19 (Ref:3820408)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

I guess we'll never know as it's unlikely privateers will be getting boost any time soon

I wouldn't say that. I do know Toyota won't be getting a boost. As far as I have read they have their EOT set in stone and the privateers are tinkered or altered to meet that. We'll see what happens in the coming weeks.

XtC24 · 6 May 2018, 19:36 (Ref:3820454)

I hope Ginetta will be back at LM because this is the best looking LMP1 for me.
As cool and fast the Rebellion is, all I can see, when I look at any Oreca are
Les Shadoks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8cf...cVYCVrHFB_IrBl

OmerRS · 6 May 2018, 22:29 (Ref:3820490)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Really? I remember reading an article saying they wouldn't have trouble meeting the 833kg weight for lmp1 because the 07 has a lot of ballast to make it 930kg.

Also new 4.5 litre engine is 8 kgs lighter than the 4.2 litre P2 engine.

http://www.gibsontech.co.uk/engines/gl458_4-5-litre

http://www.gibsontech.co.uk/engines/gk428

TF110 · 6 May 2018, 22:47 (Ref:3820492)

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Originally Posted by OmerRS

Also new 4.5 litre engine is 8 kgs lighter than the 4.2 litre P2 engine.

http://www.gibsontech.co.uk/engines/gl458_4-5-litre

http://www.gibsontech.co.uk/engines/gk428

Thanks for that.

Deleted · 7 May 2018, 09:55 (Ref:3820551)

“We’re allowed to use 2.66 [kg of fuel per lap] but we were using mostly on average 2.60 just to be safe, because we lifted ourselves… we had to guess by ourselves,” he said.

“So already we lost a lot of time on each lap… and that was for sure a big-time loss for us.”

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/j...aving-tactics/

Hmm...

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