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Old 1 Jun 2012, 14:26 (Ref:3083280)   #1101
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Jousse had a contract for the season ,and the fact he got information a long time after the other drivers caused this situation. the information was running cross the forums for a long week .
So he was cool with the contract being broken just wanted to be told about it?
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 15:08 (Ref:3083301)   #1102
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 15:11 (Ref:3083305)   #1103
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Oh dear. There has been a lot of odd stuff going on in and around the Pescarolo camp lately, a bit much to believe he's always the victim.

Shame about the cars, was looking forward to seeing them both.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 15:40 (Ref:3083320)   #1104
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The link from the "Maine libre" the Sarthe newspaper which is a pescarolo supporter.
http://www.lemainelibre.fr/actualite...-06-2012-36018
Open it in google for translation.
as we know Jousse was a paying driver not a paid one.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 16:06 (Ref:3083327)   #1105
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Since both cars are new, it means they either run on Sunday or are out of the race, correct?
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 16:15 (Ref:3083330)   #1106
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Since both cars are new, it means they either run on Sunday or are out of the race, correct?
Yep. That's the sad truth. Hope the legal guy who has to decide over this matter this afternoon has some sense and gives the cars back to Henri asap.

Shame to see Henri's team in such a decline since nearly losing out to Audi in 2005. Maybe it is time to throw in the towel?
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 16:36 (Ref:3083340)   #1107
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I have tremendous admiration for Henri Pescarolo and his team , but maybe he needs a slap on the wrist ..... but that might sound the death bell for Team Pescarolo .

Henri really shouldnt be doing whats alleged the article above , if indeed its true .

Im sure if the cars arnt presant this weekend , the ACO will give him a waiver ..... he is Henri and his team is Le Mans based ..... and he is French !!!

This bull does cast a shadow on the event though .
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 16:52 (Ref:3083348)   #1108
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According to http://www.lemans.org/fr/courses/jou...parc_7216.html the two Pescarolo cars missed scrutineering today and the garage is locked.

Imagine that the Dome will not be allowed to race because the legal action of Julien Jousse. This is very bad
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:06 (Ref:3083353)   #1109
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There will be a little Frenchman , hiding near the techno park with a spare key made at Mr.Minute in the Carrefour ..... dressed up like Johnny onion ring ...........

I would be surprised not to see them at the race ..... though if they dont make the test weekend its bad for development and setup as they will have it all to do in a short time .

Point : If the team has been excluded , then there must be news of a P2 Lola and an IMSA 997 in , and the teams would surely be informed by now .
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:07 (Ref:3083354)   #1110
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Point : If the team has been excluded , then there must be news of a P2 Lola and an IMSA 997 in , and the teams would surely be informed by now .
Both the 32 Lotus/Lola-Judd and the 76 IMSA Porsche are already at the circuit, they were going to be at the Test Day anyway. So the kit is there, the drivers are there, it's only a matter of whether they will be allowed into the race or not.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:30 (Ref:3083371)   #1111
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in this situation none is the winner; even if hasn't been correct, pescarolo did every kind of compromises to run their cars at le mans and surely after this, dome won't care anymore of pescarolo having wasted their LM project and ambitions. Even if a judge will agree with jousse, being a paying driver, ruined his reputation... i don't know how many teams will be happy to have in the team a driver that can sue you ruining a whole season.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:35 (Ref:3083373)   #1112
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Henri got the Luxury Ferri's impounded over a dispute , now Jousse has Henri's cars impounded over a dispute .

Not really interested in hearing Henri's whinging anymore .

So , what exactly should Jousse do Alex , roll over and take it in the nuts . He has sponsorship commitments too I expect ?
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:38 (Ref:3083376)   #1113
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:43 (Ref:3083380)   #1114
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trust, if i was in jousse i will do the same that he hid. I agree with him, but being realistic and objective this sue damages pescarolo, dome, ACO credibility, the guy who owns the 03 tub, pescarolo team staff and jousse future career it self.
Won't be easy to find a solution.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:55 (Ref:3083387)   #1115
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what a ruddy mess all this legal stuff is beginning to make sportscar racing look like F1 a couple of years ago, please can it stop and we get on with racing cars
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:56 (Ref:3083389)   #1116
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Jousse has every right to do this. If he had driven like that fool Ayari did back in 2005 I could have understood it but Jousse despite being new has been consistently one of the best drivers on the grid. He completed his run at LM2011 with NO mistakes and was lap after lap the fastest Pescarolo driver. Not to mention it appears he was in a contract, and that it is pathetic that they'd wait until so late to dump him. Looking at this year's driver talent line-up (or lack therefore of), Jousse could have easily found a ride in one of the 4 classes had he been let go months ago.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 17:59 (Ref:3083393)   #1117
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trust, if i was in jousse i will do the same that he hid. I agree with him, but being realistic and objective this sue damages pescarolo, dome, ACO credibility, the guy who owns the 03 tub, pescarolo team staff and jousse future career it self.
Won't be easy to find a solution.
Jousse could easily find a job in the future whether it be in ACO-sports car racing or elsewhere. He's a damn good driver and seems smooth behind the wheel, if this is what it looks like, especially after what Henri did to Luxury, then their reputation as a team does deserve damaged credibility.

This is becoming a boring, political and legal mess. Which is a damn shame since I was looking forward to seeing the car, and Julien, at Le Mans this year.
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 18:04 (Ref:3083397)   #1118
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a contract is a contract ,for a driver waiting a year for racing at le mans and sacked at the last moment is a nightmare. In every entreprise,rules must be applied ,we live in civilised countries. In such a case,the manager has to put its money on the table ,HP is not a poor man but an egoist.

Bouchut suffered the same situation a few years ago from PESCAROLO and during three years he had to convince the others teams he was not a wreck but a fine driver .
this situation is crazy ,but who showed this way to Jousse if HP himself when he decided to seize the luxury ferrari during 3 weeks ,without consideration about the team and drivers . He is now eating its own cooking and can appreciate .
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Jousse has every right to do this. If he had driven like that fool Ayari did back in 2005 I could have understood it but Jousse despite being new has been consistently one of the best drivers on the grid. He completed his run at LM2011 with NO mistakes and was lap after lap the fastest Pescarolo driver. Not to mention it appears he was in a contract, and that it is pathetic that they'd wait until so late to dump him. Looking at this year's driver talent line-up (or lack therefore of), Jousse could have easily found a ride in one of the 4 classes had he been let go months ago.
To me it sounds like Henri was in a bit of a pickle. As the new sponsor agreement (Goethe) was only in place with Stuart Hall taking the seat.

So it seems that kicking Jousse was the secure way to get the cars on track.

Although it sounds a bit foolish of Henri, if he truly have declined to help Jousse in any way!
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 18:08 (Ref:3083399)   #1120
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trust in a workplace, it can be an office or a racing team, a worker that (even if is right) is brave enough to sue other associates or the manager hardly is appreciated... a large number of people prefer to have a solid stability in their workplace than risk to defend the rights of someone else. Is simple social engineering.
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Can anyone explain what Jousse is trying to accomplish with his action beyond hurting Pescarolo badly? Getting back the money that he/his sponsors paid for the seat? I doubt that the money he is bringing is anywhere near the money that Goethe is paying to get Hall in the car. Forcing Pescarolo to replace Collard or Bouillon instead such that Jousse can still drive?
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Old 1 Jun 2012, 18:25 (Ref:3083414)   #1122
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simply a little revenge...
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News flash. According to http://www.lemans.maville.com/sport/...64288_actu.Htm the court has ruled in favor of Pescarolo and even condemned Jousse for abuse of the process!
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good new, but maybe jousse can still appeal the verdict
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Jousse is in a tough spot now. As, as others have alluded, it's not exactly doing him that many favours in the world of sportscars. That would be my thinking.
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