Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Saloon & Sportscar Racing > Sportscar & GT Racing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13 Mar 2003, 13:50 (Ref:535057)   #1
Osella
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,204
Osella should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
if there were no restrictors....

IF there were no restrictions on the air being breathed in by sportscars and GT cars' motors, what would be the downsides? (I'm trying to second-guess the rulemakers here).

is it just grounds of cost and safety?

How much power would we get, unrestricted?

In endurance racing, wouldn't it be better to let the teams get the balnce between insane horsepower and reliabilty right?

To my untutored eye, a big car like an R8 or a B2K Lola or Reynard is a far more sensible place to put 900bhp than an F1 car!
Osella is offline  
Quote
Old 13 Mar 2003, 19:47 (Ref:535351)   #2
Hauptmann6
Rookie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 39
Hauptmann6 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Cost and safety are it... You would be looking at 240+ speeds on the Mulsanne as it is now... And the big turbo teams(Audi Bently) would be unchallengeable...

And the big American V8 and 10s would be unstoppable in GTS.
Hauptmann6 is offline  
Quote
Old 13 Mar 2003, 19:48 (Ref:535353)   #3
Garrett
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
United States
Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 242
Garrett should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
In racing, why restrict the field. If the driver is too chicken to get in a 900hp or 1000hp car, then don't race. I would love to see 1000 horses coming from a le mans car as Nissan did in 1990 where they ran around 1000hp in qualifying. I my opinion, unrestricted racing is the way it should be. 230mph at le mans would be great to see again on the firt part of the straight.
Garrett is offline  
Quote
Old 13 Mar 2003, 20:05 (Ref:535373)   #4
danhx
Racer
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location:
Kennesaw, Georgia
Posts: 334
danhx should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Nissan actually upwards of 1200 hp in one of they qualifying runs because the wastegates on Mark Blundell's car jammed shut and the boost shot out the roof. He hit something like 245 on the straight and was getting wheelspin in fifth gear. Crazy stuff, i'd love to see it again.

P.S. - Garrett, it's good to see another Georgia boy mulling around here
danhx is offline  
__________________
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer." - Thoreau
Quote
Old 13 Mar 2003, 21:26 (Ref:535447)   #5
C_g
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location:
Baltimore, USA
Posts: 204
C_g should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Safety. These flat-bottom cars have taken off (flipped) at speeds well under 200mph. Anything well over that, well, you're just tempting fate.
C_g is offline  
Quote
Old 13 Mar 2003, 22:13 (Ref:535478)   #6
Sean Crockett
Racer
 
Sean Crockett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Wales
South Wales (UK)
Posts: 134
Sean Crockett should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
But for 2004 & beyond....
Sean Crockett is offline  
Quote
Old 14 Mar 2003, 13:19 (Ref:536025)   #7
gi_gav
Veteran
 
gi_gav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Scotland
Posts: 656
gi_gav should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridgi_gav should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I'm sort of playing devils advocate here, but why does it matter whether a car does 210mph or 240?

To the naked eye, there can't be much difference (and you're not even supposed to be watching on the Mulsanne anyway...) and i can't imagine that it makes for better racing.

Cars sliding about in the corners is a different matter! Balancing a car on the limit of adhesion is what motorsport is all about, not how fast a car goes in a straight line.
gi_gav is offline  
Quote
Old 14 Mar 2003, 15:01 (Ref:536136)   #8
gttouring
Veteran
 
gttouring's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location:
USB 3.0
Posts: 4,536
gttouring should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
good point, balancing a car on its limit is motorsports excitent. But these artificial restrictions, they are a bit arbitrary, a 1200 horsepower car may likely never last 24 hrs. so half that or abouts, seems to be a good call, but restricting also seems to keep a parity among the teams to keep racing dicey, Bently and Audi would do more damage, without these. as other teams get closer to this level of performance then we will see the greatest battles ever, it is only a matter of time and maybe this year we will see, weaver did do very well in the LMP675
Of course we do not ever want to see restriction reaching Daytona Prototype levels, this is appalling.
gttouring is offline  
__________________
SuperTrucks rule- end of story.
Listen to my ramblings! Follow my twitter @davidAET
I am shameless ...
Quote
Old 14 Mar 2003, 17:51 (Ref:536265)   #9
C_g
Racer
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location:
Baltimore, USA
Posts: 204
C_g should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally posted by gi_gav
I'm sort of playing devils advocate here, but why does it matter whether a car does 210mph or 240?
I agree gi_gav, there really isn't much of a difference visually, but we humans like numbers. *shrug*

There is a big difference between 210 and 240 as far as safety is concerned though. Aerodynamic force approximately goes as the square of the speed. So even though it's only 14% faster, the forces involved are approximately 30% larger. So 30% higher downforce, upforce, whatever. And that's a real concern.
C_g is offline  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Without restrictors? DanJR1 Sportscar & GT Racing 10 23 Feb 2005 22:07
Are Air Restrictors for F1? Edmonton Formula One 10 11 Feb 2004 21:14
Air Restrictors In Wrc Robin Plummer Racing Technology 13 20 Feb 2003 06:12
Turbo Restrictors boyracer Racing Technology 3 10 Oct 2002 07:22


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:33.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.