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Old 24 May 2008, 17:31 (Ref:2210638)   #1
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I can't do a link right now as I'm on the PS3, but check out Racecar Engineerings website, they have a great tech preview for every car now online.
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Old 24 May 2008, 17:41 (Ref:2210642)   #2
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Old 24 May 2008, 18:01 (Ref:2210655)   #3
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Shame that sam doesn't rate either of the Lola coupes as even finishers.
Arguably they have had more race laps (testing) than the Dome.
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Old 24 May 2008, 18:07 (Ref:2210658)   #4
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But how many laps can the Aston Lola string together without problems?

It won't finish. If it does, it won't be classified.
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Old 24 May 2008, 21:49 (Ref:2210805)   #5
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I can't do a link right now as I'm on the PS3, but check out Racecar Engineerings website, they have a great tech preview for every car now online.
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as we hope this will be the most comprehensive technical run down of the cars taking...
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Exclusive: An exhaustive technical look at every car competing in this years race. Full features and links
Great? Exhaustive?

Did you read their comments of the GT2 cars already? What sort of review is that?

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Old 24 May 2008, 22:04 (Ref:2210813)   #6
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Great? Exhaustive?

Did you read their comments of the GT2 cars already? What sort of review is that?
Leave'm alone, they are predicting Aston and Porsche victories, which makes it a great preview in my book .


yeah, if i was a dictator I would be of the shoot the messenger kind...
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Old 24 May 2008, 22:26 (Ref:2210826)   #7
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But how many laps can the Aston Lola string together without problems?

It won't finish. If it does, it won't be classified.
It did alright at Barcelona? But my point about testing is that they'll find these problems already.
If there were only one Peugeot or one Audi you probably wouldn't rate their luck over 24 hours that highly either, hence why they are racing 3 each.
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Old 24 May 2008, 22:32 (Ref:2210831)   #8
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The site is nicely put together,but these guys don't know what they´re on about.

Here's what they they think happened to the Lambo on it's great run at the Spa 1000km:

"silly reliability problems cost it a class win."

While the car acually got hit by the Epsilon Euskadi in the la source hairpin,causing damage to the nosesection,resulting in an open flapping nosehatch. The car then had to go in for a lenghty stop,whereby the team were not allowed to tape the hatch back,but had to change the entire nose,causing a loss of some four or five laps.
THAT's why it didn't win it's class.

I seem to remember a Murcielago R-GT almost completing it's first 24 of Le Mans...

I for one don´t take these guys serious.
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Old 24 May 2008, 23:38 (Ref:2210888)   #9
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Wait till race week then - there will be stuff there that you won't find elsewhere (loads more to stuff to come but our focus is really in class order).

GTfour explore the preview a little more - theres a huge amount there - most of which you won't find anywhere else

I'm pretty certain niether Lola Coupe will finish, I think they are great cars and will be a force next year.

Hmm for some reason the Audi R10 section isn't workin right - only the first of 6 pages is displaying... will sort that in the morning.
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Old 24 May 2008, 23:49 (Ref:2210896)   #10
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I fully agree with you on the Lola´s ss_collins,but with the Lambo´s they really just suck their prediction out of their thumb basing it on fiction instead of facts...
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Old 25 May 2008, 00:03 (Ref:2210912)   #11
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I wrote that bit - and you are right on the spa race, I watched it but forgot the reason for the bonnet coming off, but the pit work was shoddy. Also the lambo is a pretty rotten racecar, especially compared to a DBR9 or C6R... That car will not be a contender and I honestly struggle to see it finishing. I saw one stripped down last year and the thing was just bad... But then my love of GT1 is well known...
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Old 25 May 2008, 00:59 (Ref:2210933)   #12
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"Also the lambo is a pretty rotten racecar, especially compared to a DBR9 or C6R... That car will not be a contender and I honestly struggle to see it finishing."

Again I have to agree. Allthough the Lambo is a crowdpleaser for it´s spinetingling sound and awesome looks,it indeed is far from the higly streched purpose build racers by Corvette and Aston.
I though,wouldn´t be surprised if it actually finished in the top five of it´s class .
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Old 25 May 2008, 03:28 (Ref:2210975)   #13
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A bit OT, but this is something I picked up from http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...e-spyder1//P2/ regarding the RS Spyder at LM:

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We do not make special engines for the LMS three or 12-hour races, they’re all for 24 hours.

There is no doubt it will be faster than an LMP1 at Le Mans.
They're certainly confident...
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Old 25 May 2008, 07:53 (Ref:2211032)   #14
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Well I found the reviews interesting and informative, I did not agree with everything but that is not surprising, I look forward to listening and participating in the inevitable discussions it will bring on saturday at the ten-tenths meeting.

Thank you sam for writting it and allowing us all to read your views.
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I think some people are being exceptionally rude about this effort. It's not perfect, but if you guys think you can do better write it yourself.

I was impressed, and though some bits aren't there, i'm confident they will be soon, and I enjoyed flicking through. I'll read it properly later.
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A bit OT, but this is something I picked up from http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...e-spyder1//P2/ regarding the RS Spyder at LM:


They're certainly confident...
That's from RCE about 12 months ago, and was with regards to 2006 regs/opposition.
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Very gratefull for the free content but I have to agree that it didn't say much I didn't know already - the title left me hoping it would have a little more technical content rather than race predictions.

To be honest, at this time of the year I will read anything and everything Le Mans related to get the next few weeks to hurry up so the more content and coverage the better!!
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Old 25 May 2008, 20:09 (Ref:2211685)   #18
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Tom did you read all the articles??? you must have been reading a lot I gave up counting words at 10,000
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that's a bit extreme ^^
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Old 26 May 2008, 14:01 (Ref:2212198)   #20
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Tom did you read all the articles??? you must have been reading a lot I gave up counting words at 10,000
Well I read all the new articles, but a lot of the technical reviews were links to older articles or bits from Mulsannes corner which already read before.
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cool, yeah theres still a lot of new stuff to come but not until race week. Darned Audi article still isn't working.

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that's a bit extreme ^^
I don't think so - the 908 will be a lot faster than the R10, but I think 2 of 3 will break, but if one finishes with a cleanish run it will win.
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cool, yeah theres still a lot of new stuff to come but not until race week. Darned Audi article still isn't working.
Thats great to hear - look forward to it!

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I don't think so - the 908 will be a lot faster than the R10, but I think 2 of 3 will break, but if one finishes with a cleanish run it will win.
Looking at the form so far in the LMS my money is on a crash for one of each car (with each other or passing traffic) and technical problems for one of each (Audi haven't been perfect this year) leaving the remaining Peugeot to take the victory on pace. Obviously its anyones guess but the aggressiveness of both teams through traffic (Peugeot - LMS Spa, Audi - ALMS Sebring) leads me to suspect neither will be unscathed.
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