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Old 6 Jul 2023, 07:22 (Ref:4166910)   #1951
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Official retirement must be stated explicitly by the team principal to the RC. To the public, you have confirmation of the retirement when the iron curtain of the box is lowered. On YT, you'll find images of this at least for the Toyota. It belongs to LM long established tradition.
That I didn't know, but that makes sense. Obviously you don't want to retire a car that can come back into a race.
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Old 6 Jul 2023, 07:34 (Ref:4166919)   #1952
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That I didn't know, but that makes sense. Obviously you don't want to retire a car that can come back into a race.
But this has happened. Back in (I think) 1986, Henri Pescarolo was driving the Kouros Mercedes (Sauber) and stopped out on the circuit. He was gone for so long and the pit had word from a mechanic out there that all was lost so his team manager retired the car. After several hours working on the car Henri managed to get it back to the pits. As I understand it, although the car had been retired the race director agreed to reverse the decision (I suspect it helped rather a lot that it was Henri, a Frenchman who had brought it back!) and the car was repaired. Sadly it retired not long afterwards with gearbox failure.
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Old 6 Jul 2023, 12:02 (Ref:4166947)   #1953
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Yes - checked for 80 and 75 - the total elapsed time agrees to the figures on the Analysis pdf (each car lap by lap) - so it’s the time that car last passed the start finish line.

Out on track retirements like No 7 would have a bit more track time not shown.

Pitstops just shows completed stops so last time in for pit retirees omitted from that (and pitstop timing line about 8 seconds or so before crossing line in pits)

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Old 6 Jul 2023, 13:24 (Ref:4166955)   #1954
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Yes.

Although I am not sure it is quite de rigueur nowadays.

I remember the Mercedes in 1999 returning to the garages and the shutters going straight down.
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Old 6 Jul 2023, 14:01 (Ref:4166961)   #1955
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Although I am not sure it is quite de rigueur nowadays.

I remember the Mercedes in 1999 returning to the garages and the shutters going straight down.
Hangar doors coming down is a sure sign
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Old 6 Jul 2023, 15:37 (Ref:4166976)   #1956
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But this has happened.
i've exactly the same story with Derek Bell. During the night in the Porsche curves, I was giving help to friends marshals when he went out of the track, heavily hitting the barriers.Not his fault really, all the lights of the car went out all of a sudden. Slightly shocked, he was walking away when I told him that may be it could be fixed by the team. The said team had been away for a long time when he reached the garage with a really bent and wrecked Mirage. Can't remember the year tho.

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Old 7 Jul 2023, 14:32 (Ref:4167070)   #1957
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Any updates on the final results for the race?

Some cars were still being looked into post race
It is being reported now that the ACO are looking over the wiring loom from the Inter car.
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Old 7 Jul 2023, 16:06 (Ref:4167086)   #1958
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Wonder what issues they could find related to a wiring loom? Could someone be playing games with disabling certain "features"?
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Old 7 Jul 2023, 17:10 (Ref:4167094)   #1959
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Although I am not sure it is quite de rigueur nowadays.
Si, si c'est toujours de rigueur mon cher Adam.
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Old 7 Jul 2023, 20:45 (Ref:4167106)   #1960
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It is being reported now that the ACO are looking over the wiring loom from the Inter car.
Guess someone on Amazon finally made a chip for the Gibson to unlock all that hidden hp and mileage through the cigarette lighter
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Old 7 Jul 2023, 22:55 (Ref:4167108)   #1961
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Old 7 Jul 2023, 23:37 (Ref:4167109)   #1962
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You wouldn't think there is much variety in parts in that spec class, but i've heard rumblings of certain illegal parts being found on purchased 2nd hand cars.
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Old 12 Jul 2023, 18:48 (Ref:4168141)   #1963
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You wouldn't think there is much variety in parts in that spec class, but i've heard rumblings of certain illegal parts being found on purchased 2nd hand cars.
You (me too) cant imagine what some smart panties can invent. Resistors on the wiring loom for instance. The "best" is to have a phantom ECU connected via the main wiring loom or another parallel one.
@Adam:As to tradition at LM, iron curtain apart, there is the last lap time you must complete it within X minutes and cross the start/finish line on the track and not using the pitlane. I paid to learn this at Spa (2018?).
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Didn’t a car at Brands Hatch have an engine boost that only worked when the 4 way seatbelt was done up?
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Cant say! I guess next move will be a breathalyser device in the steering wheel.
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Looks like we have ourselves a race result.
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Good to see Inter's win confirmed!
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Excellent (if somewhat belated) news.....
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Just saw the "Official Le Mans 2023" tonight on French TV. It is absolutely awful: it is a gigantic promotional clip for the event, of which the racing is notably absent. The race is summed-up in a succession of chaotic situations (mainly caused by P2 and GTE otherwise completely absent from the narrative) with no continuity, no timecode no nothing.

One could argue it is made for a casual sportscar amateur knowing little of the sport. That's OK but the main attraction is the sport, so show it please !
Very sad that the Duke editions have been written off in favor of this BS.
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Well I have an opposite opinion about the movie. We can watch the whole race on UTube as many times as we want. Yes it's a kind of promotion for the event, but through a different prism and we see other things.
I liked the moment when Doriane asks for a pain au chocolat and the moment when Tom K receives his brand new driver suit among so many legends.
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