[LM24] Le Mans Test Day

[Lusitano]

in 2005, at the New England Grand Prix in Lime Rock, CT, USA, I actually saw one guy walking around with a sound meter. I am sure he felt he was making the world a better place...

Being a Diesel advocate, I can appreciate the noise that they make, or rather, that they do not, but noise is part of racing. I do not like Corvettes, but I like their sound!

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by MulsanneMike

The Ferrari 333SP always ran with mufflers. And frankly if you can notice the difference between 113 db and say 130 db, you're the better man. I can't, but can tell you 113 is still plenty loud and doesn't keep me from wearing ear plugs at the track. As someone who's been going to the races for over 15 years I've ended up with a permanent ringing in my ears called tinnitus. And all the years I've been going, noise regulations of some kind have been in effect. During the GTP days it was around 108 db, WSC days about where its at now. So noise regulations aren't anything new and while they won't keep anyone from loosing their hearing, if they potentially keep certain races that run close to communities (say Road Atlanta) from legislating themselves out of existance, I certainly welcome them.

Ok mike , i take your point . But as you say , if it stops local communities complaining , i see that too . But , what was there before the community ? Like at brands hatch for example . The track was there before the community got largh to start screaming .

I work at an airport and have pics of the other side of the airport , before people started living there ..... guess where most of the noise complaints are comeing from !!!

If its x amount of decibels this year ..... what will it be like 4 years from now . people will always crib about noise , but it doesnt always mean that they are in the right either .

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by Lusitano

in 2005, at the New England Grand Prix in Lime Rock, CT, USA, I actually saw one guy walking around with a sound meter. I am sure he felt he was making the world a better place...

Being a Diesel advocate, I can appreciate the noise that they make, or rather, that they do not, but noise is part of racing. I do not like Corvettes, but I like their sound!

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Irishman from Tullamore ...... you must be a bloody farmer then !!!

[MulsanneMike]

Originally Posted by The Badger

Ok mike , i take your point . But as you say , if it stops local communities complaining , i see that too . But , what was there before the community ? Like at brands hatch for example . The track was there before the community got largh to start screaming .

I work at an airport and have pics of the other side of the airport , before people started living there ..... guess where most of the noise complaints are comeing from !!!

If its x amount of decibels this year ..... what will it be like 4 years from now . people will always crib about noise , but it doesnt always mean that they are in the right either .

Ultimately the noise limits won't stop people from *****ing, especially as communities encroach upon tracks. The noise limits will just gain time, that's about it. Don't know what the long term solution is beyond say education about what the races bring into the communities from an economic standpoint. Peope always understand money.

[The Badger]

Now your talking ..... same where i live , the city relies on the airport for a tourist point of view , both summer and winter , still get the whingers though .

Anybody have a figure on how much money Le mans generates each year for the locals ?

[Lusitano]

Originally Posted by The Badger

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Irishman from Tullamore ...... you must be a bloody farmer then !!!

You could not be more wrong!
By the way, why did this comment come about and what are you trying to say?

[JAG]

Originally Posted by MulsanneMike

And like we know from last year's Test Days, all this is meaningless. The real analysis will come from looking at the sector times and as the ACO has done nothing about diesel's on track performance, I suspect the issue to remain and in fact the time performance difference to be even greater this year. But really none of this will shake out until the race and will only become evident until one looks at sustained race pace and sector times. Peugeot and Audi aren't stupid with the ACO's arbitrary lap time "cap" in place. They certainly won't be showing their hand today.

And you don't think Pescarolo etc. are doing the absolute minimum to make it clear to the ACO how hard done by they are?

Pescaolo are 3-4+ seconds a lap quicker than other, quick, petrol P1 cars, so what's the excuse for such a gap?

The R10's advantage seems no different to the R8's back in the day.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by The Badger

5 cars are diesel ..... what need is there for the other 50 to run mufflers ?

Mufflers or something to tune them so the noise does not exceed 113 dbs or current sound limits.

Yes we Love LOUD race cars, but heck, as Mike mentioned, how long does it take for perminet ringing in the ears??

I ware earplugs under my helmet in the race car, and it is still loud.

[MulsanneMike]

Originally Posted by JAG

And you don't think Pescarolo etc. are doing the absolute minimum to make it clear to the ACO how hard done by they are?

Pescaolo are 3-4+ seconds a lap quicker than other, quick, petrol P1 cars, so what's the excuse for such a gap?

The R10's advantage seems no different to the R8's back in the day.

Like I mentioned,the absolute times we're seeing here are meaningless. Its the sector times that will be more truthful and only when done in anger.

..and so far Pescarolo is only about 2.5 seconds quicker than the Creation.

[Bentley03]

16:34-3.28.277 for Biela!!!!!!!! (Planet LeMans)

[JAG]

Pescarolo ran a late 3.29 last year, this year the tracks 1-2 seconds quicker, at least.

So far they've ran 3.31.958,

It's safe to say Pescarolo should be capable of nudging into the 3.28's, the diesels could probably go another 2 seconds quicker.

[Dani Filth]

3:27.1 from Bourdais .. nice lap

[Gil Abobeleira]

3m27.1 for Sebastian Bordais.

[Erw]

How r the spykers doing?

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by Erw

How r the spykers doing?

16:46- Both Spykers 9th and 10th in class, 86 in 4.09.236, 85 in 4.09.904, engine grief seems to be over

http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...=2749&Itemid=2

[Dani Filth]

Originally Posted by JAG

Pescarolo ran a late 3.29 last year, this year the tracks 1-2 seconds quicker, at least.

So far they've ran 3.31.958,

It's safe to say Pescarolo should be capable of nudging into the 3.28's, the diesels could probably go another 2 seconds quicker.

they improved to 3:31.697

[FIRE]

Why is there a red flag situation?

[MulsanneMike]

Have there been any pictures of the R10? DSC was saying the cars were runing around with covers over the rear wings on their way to scrutineering yesterday.

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Why is there a red flag situation?

Arena Zytek had a 'small' fire (Planet LeMans).

[The359]

What's wrong with the T2M Dome? According to T&S, they haven't set a fast lap at all?

I also notice that Yojira Terada is in the cockpit according to timing...

[SALEEN S7R]

Bourdais sets a 3:26 something?! Wow thats a seriously fast lap time.

[Dani Filth]

3:26.7 .. Sebastian Bourdais again

[zac510]

Originally Posted by MulsanneMike

Have there been any pictures of the R10? DSC was saying the cars were runing around with covers over the rear wings on their way to scrutineering yesterday.

There were some photos of the R10 on the scrute bridge - the wing didn't look any radical, maybe just a different profile.

Bourdais down to high 26s.

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

3:26.7 .. Sebastian Bourdais again

I think he's having fun!

[PascaLM]

3'26"707 for Sébastien Bourdais, very impressive.