WEC Rebellion Racing - Page 78

chernaudi · 14 Jun 2018, 15:09 (Ref:3829303)

Based on theoretical best lap times, Rebellion should hopefully be capable of 3:18s, which is reasonably close to what Toyota so far have turned.

It should be noted that one Toyota did 342km/h during FP1, with the SMP BR1s also quick, but the Rebellions are down on top speed. Combined with their sector 1/3 times, that shows that they're carrying a ton of downforce.

Juntos · 14 Jun 2018, 23:21 (Ref:3829549)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Based on theoretical best lap times, Rebellion should hopefully be capable of 3:18s, which is reasonably close to what Toyota so far have turned.

Rebellions can't match the Toyota's pace. They better focus on their own pace than trying to go for an impossible victory. Acceptance of what has happened is the first step to overcoming the consequences of any misfortune.

chernaudi · 15 Jun 2018, 00:43 (Ref:3829561)

The problem is that we don't know what the drop off will be for the privateers vs the Toyotas (factory cars). We do know that Toyota won't be able to run anything close to what they qualified in the race. If Rebellion can get to within a couple of seconds of what Toyota can do in race trim, then we might have a race on our hands if Toyota slip up.

Damian Baldi · 15 Jun 2018, 02:48 (Ref:3829568)

The Toyotas seem to do race laps in 3.21 3.23, with longest stints, I don't know how the non-hybrid cars could race against them. I see difficult for them (any team, not only Rebellion) to sustain a race in 3.22

Let's see, I hope to be wrong and watch an interesting race.

TF110 · 15 Jun 2018, 03:20 (Ref:3829571)

I think in clear traffic, most of the lmp1s can run 3:20 flats or 3:19s even. ByKolles and Ginetta will most likely bring up the rear imo. I think Rebellion can make ways into Toyota by pushing them. We saw during practice and qualifying that they can be pinged for fuel consumption.

**Aysedasi** · 15 Jun 2018, 09:06 (Ref:3829610)

They're really going to have to watch that, if they're not going to just hand it to Toyota. I expect the Toyotas to run conservatively in the race, they don't need to do anything else. The Rebs can't afford any silly errors (by drivers or the team) if they are to hope for a good result.

TF110 · 15 Jun 2018, 19:18 (Ref:3829746)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

They're really going to have to watch that, if they're not going to just hand it to Toyota. I expect the Toyotas to run conservatively in the race, they don't need to do anything else. The Rebs can't afford any silly errors (by drivers or the team) if they are to hope for a good result.

Apparently, Toyota can't just 'take it easy' and cruise. That would be detrimental to their car according to Vasselon. So if the privateers want to have a chance they need to be on it too. It'll be an interesting race in anyway imo. I hope Rebellion and the others really make it interesting though.

**Aysedasi** · 15 Jun 2018, 19:48 (Ref:3829752)

And we believe the 'master' of disinformation? Not me.

But I agree with you. If enough cars remain reliable and Toyota slips at all, we're potentially in for a very interesting race.

Akrapovic · 15 Jun 2018, 20:11 (Ref:3829759)

With the torque from the hybrid system, I expect the gap to grow in traffic like it did at Spa. The Toyota can nip past cars much quicker than the non-hybrids can. We seen something similar in IMSA when they balanced DPs and LMP2s on lap time. They could generate similar lap times, but come race day and the DPs were miles ahead because they had more torque to deal with the traffic.

Not a complaint, as I love the hybrid torque, but don't be surprised if the gap opens up when they hit traffic. The hybrids have an absolutely brutal ability when dealing with.

TF110 · 15 Jun 2018, 21:15 (Ref:3829778)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

With the torque from the hybrid system, I expect the gap to grow in traffic like it did at Spa. The Toyota can nip past cars much quicker than the non-hybrids can. We seen something similar in IMSA when they balanced DPs and LMP2s on lap time. They could generate similar lap times, but come race day and the DPs were miles ahead because they had more torque to deal with the traffic.

Not a complaint, as I love the hybrid torque, but don't be surprised if the gap opens up when they hit traffic. The hybrids have an absolutely brutal ability when dealing with.

Could happen, but they are limited to 8mj per lap. The best way to make lap time is accelerating on the long straights like dragsters. If they have to use the hybrid to pass traffic it'll compromise them on other parts of the lap. This track is nearly twice as long as Spa but they only have 2mj more here. If you take Spa's length to hybrid power available and applied it to Le Mans, they'd have something around 12mj of hybrid. That's where I think the non-hybrids can actually do something. They're limited on fuel usage too, but not nearly as much as Toyota is. I envision it that way at least, but who knows. At least we won't until tomorrow!

chernaudi · 22 Jun 2018, 17:29 (Ref:3832543)

I just read on DSC that the #3 Rebellion toasted its gearbox on the last lap but still managed to finish third.

LMPFan · 15 Aug 2018, 18:43 (Ref:3843854)

Here is the Rebellion R13 in it's high downforce package.

TF110 · 15 Aug 2018, 21:34 (Ref:3843907)

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Originally Posted by LMPFan

Here is the Rebellion R13 in it's high downforce package.

Look at the hole in the bodywork next to the engine cover. Wonder if that's for cooling?

RedSquirrel · 15 Aug 2018, 21:39 (Ref:3843909)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Look at the hole in the bodywork next to the engine cover. Wonder if that's for cooling?

Do you mean the one on the top of the side-pod? If so, that's been there since the first renders.
Cooling would be a good guess as there are radiators in the vicinity, plus the engine is making more power and therefore more heat than the LMP2 lump so has different coolinh needs.

TF110 · 16 Aug 2018, 03:55 (Ref:3843940)

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Originally Posted by RedSquirrel

Do you mean the one on the top of the side-pod? If so, that's been there since the first renders.
Cooling would be a good guess as there are radiators in the vicinity, plus the engine is making more power and therefore more heat than the LMP2 lump so has different coolinh needs.

Yup, you're right. I looked back at pics from Le Mans and Spa and they were there.

RedSquirrel · 15 Aug 2018, 21:27 (Ref:3843901)

I wonder how they managed to get around the "two aerodynamic devices per front corner" rule. I can see two dive-planes and a turning vane.
Anyway, considering through the Porsche Curves the lower downforce version managed 280+ km/h, Copse, Maggots-Becketts and Stowe will be simply ridiculous this weekend.

[I say lower and not low downforce because the Le Mans kit was too downforce-heavy. Seemed to me to be more of a Spa-type kit. Medium downforce, if you will.]

Deleted · 20 Feb 2019, 23:12 (Ref:3885655)

Listen to the latest Pruett podcast (MP #484) from 55min mark onwards, very interesting bit about the R13 from GG. Haven't seen it elsewhere

Juntos · 3 Mar 2019, 02:11 (Ref:3887911)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Listen to the latest Pruett podcast (MP #484) from 55min mark onwards, very interesting bit about the R13 from GG. Haven't seen it elsewhere

What did he say?

Deleted · 24 Apr 2019, 18:35 (Ref:3899454)

LM aero testing

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/photo...aero/43891066/
https://www.motorsport.com/wec/photo...1067/43891067/

ApexTurtle · 24 Apr 2019, 21:25 (Ref:3899480)

Interesting new looks! I approve

TF110 · 25 Apr 2019, 18:07 (Ref:3899603)

Looks good. Here's the image they tried to block linking to

Reminds me of the last Audi R18.

**PascaLM** · 25 Apr 2019, 18:48 (Ref:3899610)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Reminds me of the last Audi R18.

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Originally Posted by ApexTurtle

I see more of the 919 in there actually.

All aero studies on computed simulation seem to lead to the same shape.

ApexTurtle · 25 Apr 2019, 18:22 (Ref:3899606)

I see more of the 919 in there actually.

Deleted · 25 Apr 2019, 18:54 (Ref:3899611)

The only thing it's missing is the old awesome liveries (2010-2011 and the one in my avatar). But it's alright now and I guess fits the zebra theme

seanyb505 · 25 Apr 2019, 22:19 (Ref:3899654)

All livery studies on computer simulation lead to zebra

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