LM24 Le Mans 2007 - Page 43

johngee · 25 Jun 2007, 16:02 (Ref:1946432)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

Sadly it had fallen into such a state that I don't think they was any option but to rip it down and start again.

It may not be to everyones taste but at least the loos are plentyful!

The shops still sell the same rubbish.

Unfortunately, you're probably right about the original village falling down.

.......but it's not the same rubbish in the shops - it's higher priced rubbish

Lusitano · 25 Jun 2007, 17:09 (Ref:1946508)

R10 "vunerable"??? When? Where?

The no.2 dominated almost the whole race, only being brought down thanks to a glitch in the pits. The no.3 out due to some mistake, maybe.

I disagree with the comparison of the 908's noise to the R10's. The R10 still quieter. The 908 has a bit of an high pitch.

Austinspace75 · 25 Jun 2007, 20:48 (Ref:1946717)

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Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

Yes - a lot quieter apart from on start straight where there was echo - and no i don't like it.
Audi smoked quite a bit in front of us at Ford Chicane. It was suggested that it might have been the cold rain water evaporating off the turbo? -but i'm not so sure - after the safety car went off (or if the Audi "booted it" behind it) a cloud of diesel appeared to come out too - but i don;t think these two were related.
RLM did mention briefly I think.

I was surprised at how "vunerable" the R10's felt this year.

I was stood halfway along the blat from Indianapolis to Arnage, where you're really close to the cars. What was coming out of the Audi smelled very oily... possible unburned diesel squirting onto the exhausts (dunno whether diesel combusts on contact with a hot surface?)... I would have thought though, that the telemetry would instantly light up if there was a drop in pressure of any fluids, especially the fuel systems. We'll never know. Audi may have found something once they got it back to the workshop.... But they aren't gonna tell anyone, thats for sure.

bernard b · 26 Jun 2007, 05:38 (Ref:1946939)

wouldn't it be some kind of alternative traction control by "un-burning" diesel ?

SebringMG · 26 Jun 2007, 12:15 (Ref:1947186)

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Originally Posted by Lusitano

R10 "vunerable"??? When? Where?

The no.2 dominated almost the whole race, only being brought down thanks to a glitch in the pits. The no.3 out due to some mistake, maybe.

I disagree with the comparison of the 908's noise to the R10's. The R10 still quieter. The 908 has a bit of an high pitch.

No.2 did have a failure of a component either the wheel tab itself or the hub component - probably not related to the pit stop as the car had been out on those tryes for 15 laps. No.3 was driver error - pushing too hard and got onto the marbles or white painted road markings.

R10 while still being quieter than the 908 is louder than last year!!

Pilgrimage · 26 Jun 2007, 12:54 (Ref:1947223)

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Originally Posted by Lusitano

R10 "vunerable"??? When? Where?

The no.2 dominated almost the whole race, only being brought down thanks to a glitch in the pits. The no.3 out due to some mistake, maybe.

I disagree with the comparison of the 908's noise to the R10's. The R10 still quieter. The 908 has a bit of an high pitch.

My point was that out of 4 Audi based entries only one finished (albeit 1st).
All the years of the R8 & R10 i have never felt like i did this year, ie that that "anything" could happen to them whereas before they have given a sense of being bullet (and crash barrier) resistent.

**Aysedasi** · 26 Jun 2007, 15:57 (Ref:1947354)

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Originally Posted by Lusitano

Fantastic photos!
I also like the more artistic ones!

Those Pugs were very photogenic at night. I got some shots I was very pleased with. Keep an eye open for them on my site in due course - I promise I will update before May 08......

Mal · 26 Jun 2007, 16:26 (Ref:1947382)

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Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

My point was that out of 4 Audi based entries only one finished (albeit 1st).
All the years of the R8 & R10 i have never felt like i did this year, ie that that "anything" could happen to them whereas before they have given a sense of being bullet (and crash barrier) resistent.

It was interesting the the Audi suffered a bit this year, one wonders if the presence of Peugeot had anything to do with it in that they may have been much closer to the edge than in previous years when they have had no works competition.

Lusitano · 26 Jun 2007, 17:12 (Ref:1947432)

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Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

My point was that out of 4 Audi based entries only one finished (albeit 1st).
All the years of the R8 & R10 i have never felt like i did this year, ie that that "anything" could happen to them whereas before they have given a sense of being bullet (and crash barrier) resistent.

In that sense, I agree. But that engine is absolutely rock solid!
I did get a bit worried, especially after the second crash.
You could say that all of the cars running were as vulnerable as the Audis were, since vulnerability was in the form of crashes.

So, yes, it was a nerve-wrecking Le Mans for Audi, for sure.

The Badger · 26 Jun 2007, 17:16 (Ref:1947437)

Good to see Pug putting them under pressure though ..... bring it on !!!

**Aysedasi** · 27 Jun 2007, 07:47 (Ref:1947859)

I haven't been through the posts on this thread in detail since I got back, but can someone answer me one question - was there a pre-race driver parade this year? (I'm not talking about the one in the town on Friday). I was at the TT meet until it broke up around 1.10 (I think) and I heard nothing on the PA introducing drivers. When I took up my seat in T34 they were just starting the national anthems (as I recall). So did the ACO abandon the parade this year (because of the early start time or the fear of rain, perhaps?). Or did I just miss it completely - somehow.......???

johngee · 27 Jun 2007, 08:01 (Ref:1947882)

We were in the one of the tribunes opposite the pits from about 11 and there was no drivers parade. A pity as I always thought that was a nice part of the build up to the start. I've no idea why it was abandoned this year - somebody's idea of progress perhaps?

**Aysedasi** · 27 Jun 2007, 09:51 (Ref:1947963)

I was certainly disappointed. It seemed to unnecessarily shorten the pre-race goings-on which are so much a part of the whole thing for me. I just wondered if the drivers - having got a bit damp in Le Mans town on Friday evening - had said they weren't about to risk it again an hour or two before the race?

**Bentley03** · 27 Jun 2007, 09:59 (Ref:1947971)

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Originally Posted by Lusitano

I disagree with the comparison of the 908's noise to the R10's. The R10 still quieter. The 908 has a bit of an high pitch.

Interesting......my perception was that the Pug's were definitely quieter than the Audi's.

Suze · 27 Jun 2007, 10:06 (Ref:1947976)

Weird....because I was very much the other way round - ie I thought the Audi's were quieter and the Pugs almost sounded like "proper" cars.

Pilgrimage · 27 Jun 2007, 12:55 (Ref:1948096)

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Originally Posted by Suze

Weird....because I was very much the other way round - ie I thought the Audi's were quieter and the Pugs almost sounded like "proper" cars.

They were both too quiet! End of ...

**Aysedasi** · 27 Jun 2007, 13:02 (Ref:1948105)

They were indeed both much too quiet, but the Audis were appreciably louder than last year and I thought the Pugs were louder again - IMO.

Suze · 27 Jun 2007, 13:17 (Ref:1948113)

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Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

They were both too quiet! End of ...

That much I agree with

The Badger · 27 Jun 2007, 16:01 (Ref:1948226)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Interesting......my perception was that the Pug's were definitely quieter than the Audi's.

I thought the other way ..... Pug was louder

Lusitano · 27 Jun 2007, 19:09 (Ref:1948387)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I thought the other way ..... Pug was louder

Yep! Pug as about 5-6 decibels louder than the Audi (at least through Tetre Rouge), as shown on the readings of my mobile.

The Badger · 27 Jun 2007, 21:00 (Ref:1948511)

What kinda mobile have you got then ?

Lusitano · 28 Jun 2007, 17:05 (Ref:1948992)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

What kinda mobile have you got then ?

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**Aysedasi** · 28 Jun 2007, 19:02 (Ref:1949096)

With a built-in decibel meter?

**PascaLM** · 28 Jun 2007, 21:54 (Ref:1949266)

I had been really convinced by the noise limitation this year. I could stay in the Michelin grandstand without wearing ears protectors. And the singing of the engines wasn't very different.

**John Turner** · 28 Jun 2007, 22:37 (Ref:1949287)

I thought the Pug was definitely louder than the Audi which seemed to make no more than what I can only describe as a 'whooshing' sound. At least I could hear an engine, albeit a very quiet one, in the Pug. However, they were both ridiculously quiet, and a field full of such cars would destroy so much of the atmosphere, so I was thankful for the rest!

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