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Old 14 Aug 2008, 19:58 (Ref:2269249)   #1
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French Touring Cars 1983, Hockenheim. Help please!

I`m looking for race reports and the result of the round of the French Touring Car Championship at Hockenheim in 1983.
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Thanks a lot.

I'm particular interested in that race because in the French Touring Car Championship they used the so called "Handicap Rules" which were adopted for the new DPM/DTM in 1984. As opposed to the ETCC or the BTCC there was only one class and the various car types got different weight and tire widths. So the French series was a kind of role model for the DTM. And at Hockenheim during the German GP´weekend the Frech had the chance to show their series to the Germans.

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Interesting...

So the ITR may have seen the French series and thought: 'there's an idea?'

If you search back in History threads, whilst not strictly relevant to this one, we've touched on Supertourisme before in various threads. Someone even kicked one off about Peugeot's 505 model which was succesful against the Bimmer 5 series, Rover and Alfa's I seem to recall?

I'm sure we'll be able to build this up a little for you.
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. So the French series was a kind of role model for the DTM. And at Hockenheim during the German GP´weekend the Frech had the chance to show their series to the Germans.
There was an 83 GP support race, for Touring Cars, which was won by Walkinshaw's XJS. Remember the report in Motoring News. Was there a Supertourisme race as well???
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GP von Deutschland, Hockenheimring
11 round of Championnat de France de Production
6.8.1983, start time: 14:30
14 laps x 6,797 km
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1. 7 Peugeot 505 Jean-Pierre Beltoise 0:37:45,206 151,2 km/h
2. 144 Chevrolet Camaro Hans Heyer Serge Power 0:00:21,676
3. Alfa Romeo GTV6 Dany Snobeck 0:00:25,230
4. 1 Rover 3500 René Metge 0:00:41,424
5. 2 BMW 635 CSi Jean-Pierre Malcher 0:00:51,232
6. BMW 528i Fabien Giroix 0:00:51,658
7. BMW 635 CSi Claude-Ballot Léna 0:01:13,825
8. BMW 528i Gérard Bleynie 0:01:19,243
9. BMW 528i Philippe Gurdjian 0:01:34,696
10. BMW 528i Gabreau 0:01:36,252
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Alfa Romeo GTV6 Alain Cudini halfshaft
BMW 635 CSi Hans-Joachim Stuck JMS Racing 0 laps halfshaft
6 Renault R5 Turbo Jean Ragnotti accident
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Thanks for that results list!

Some serious names in there! Do you know how many cars entered or started?

Also was Stuck driving a Group A 635 machine instead of an ST version?

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