2010 Le Mans Intercontinental Cup - Page 29

HORNDAWG · 3 Sep 2010, 16:58 (Ref:2754129)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Is the ILMC going to have it's own media package, TV, website etc. seeing as the ACO are announcing partnerships for the ILMC specifically, i.e. Rolex?

Will the ILMC get US TV coverage (maybe too soon to organise this for 2011) seeing as US events are integral to the series?

I doubt that the ILMC will get its own website. The ACO (Le Mans.Org) site is now actively following/reporting on the ALMS, LMS and ILMC among its other events/series.

L.P.

LeMans.pt · 3 Sep 2010, 19:08 (Ref:2754183)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I doubt that the ILMC will get its own website. The ACO (Le Mans.Org) site is now actively following/reporting on the ALMS, LMS and ILMC among its other events/series.
L.P.

It already has one...
...well, it is far far away of being something that resembles with a poper website, but it is there.. something...

HORNDAWG · 9 Sep 2010, 05:54 (Ref:2756556)

With the Petit entry list out, this seems rather a dud! 6 cars that are not 'ALMS' cars this year, of which 4 might have showed without the ILMC. Not very impressed!!

L.P.

Mal · 9 Sep 2010, 06:04 (Ref:2756557)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

With the Petit entry list out, this seems rather a dud! 6 cars that are not 'ALMS' cars this year, of which 4 might have showed without the ILMC. Not very impressed!!

L.P.

So with the highest entry for PLM since 2003 does that reflect better on the health of ALMS if the 6 ILMC cars have not made the difference??

HORNDAWG · 9 Sep 2010, 06:17 (Ref:2756562)

Yes! What do you think? 2 Audis, 2 Peugeots and an Oreca last year. 2 Audis, 2 Peugeots and an Oak Pescarolo along with a Saleen (that I doubt will make it) this year, 30 entries last year and 45 this. A better GT class along with both LMPC and GTC bring the strength of grid this year!

Do not get me wrong, I do very much appreciate the entries from the Continent! It is the ILMC that I find lacking in that it does not seem to be bringing anything to the table!!

L.P.

Deleted · 9 Sep 2010, 07:29 (Ref:2756583)

You're right. In terms of 'international' entries and media attention, there's really not that much difference to the past - even the ILMC website is a joke. They're expecting 25-30 cars for the Asian round too (including those six GT3 fillers), which is not much better than last year. Even the 2007 Interlagos LMS round got 23 entries!

courageous · 9 Sep 2010, 15:45 (Ref:2756816)

An optimist would say that as the ILMC was a last minute job, it was too late for most private teams to get a budget sorted & 2011 will be a different matter.

Aston (works or signature), Ginetta, Lola, ORECA - a small quantity but high quality, none of which would have been earth shattering supprises

Mal · 9 Sep 2010, 16:15 (Ref:2756828)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Yes! What do you think? 2 Audis, 2 Peugeots and an Oreca last year. 2 Audis, 2 Peugeots and an Oak Pescarolo along with a Saleen (that I doubt will make it) this year, 30 entries last year and 45 this. A better GT class along with both LMPC and GTC bring the strength of grid this year!

Do not get me wrong, I do very much appreciate the entries from the Continent! It is the ILMC that I find lacking in that it does not seem to be bringing anything to the table!!

L.P.

Its early days - lets give it a chance shall we. It may not have made a difference to Petit - but it certainly has for Silverstone and Asia

Mal · 9 Sep 2010, 16:16 (Ref:2756831)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

You're right. In terms of 'international' entries and media attention, there's really not that much difference to the past - even the ILMC website is a joke. They're expecting 25-30 cars for the Asian round too (including those six GT3 fillers), which is not much better than last year. Even the 2007 Interlagos LMS round got 23 entries!

But the quality of the entry is far superior

JAG · 9 Sep 2010, 17:03 (Ref:2756845)

The ILMC is making official what manufactuers have been doing regardless.

A team can now plan their program well in advance and push the marketing and PR side.

Judging by what the ACO and Ulrich have been saying recently they appear convinced this new format will bring manufactuers into the sport.

Nothings for certain but it appears the ILMC will eventually be given World Championship status, the ALMS will stand on it's own two feet like IMSA GTP and the LMS will fullfill a role similar to Interseries/Supercup.

chernaudi · 9 Sep 2010, 21:08 (Ref:2756988)

It seems that Audi may be looking to the ALMS for a back up plan if the ILMC falls short (or apart), though Audi seems to be looking at doing ALMS and ILMC at the same time now: http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/

Acid09 · 9 Sep 2010, 22:50 (Ref:2757033)

Provided that Peugeot does a full LMS season next year, what good will it Audi do to run a full ALMS season. Who will they be racing against? There is barely any competition or did I miss something..

The best tv package is worthless when you have no one to race against.

chernaudi · 9 Sep 2010, 23:03 (Ref:2757039)

Read the article: http://twitpic.com/2mout4

Peugeot has no where to go if they give up on the ILMC or the ILMC disappears. Both Audi and Peugeot would be preaching to the crowd in Europe as far as marketing, Eurosport's coverage is horrible compared to Speed (to those who rip on Speed, be glad for what you got, because Eurosport is exponentially more horrible), and Audi has only one compmany to do marketing with in North America (Audi of America), while in Europe, Audi has to work with their various European arms.

On the other hand, if Peugeot goes back to the LMS, they have no one to race, either. They also have to deal with Eurosport's crappy coverage, and will preach to the crowd, as they have no North American arm as far as car sales. All Peugeot can do is maybe go back to the WRC if the ILMC goes away.

Acid09 · 10 Sep 2010, 00:09 (Ref:2757058)

I don't understand while the Audi works effort even has to deal with the national subsidiaries, why do they have a say in this? It seems like their company structure is poorly organised..

What makes me mad is that the crappy tv coverage is accepted as something that can't be changed. The coverage is crap so the manufacturers can't run the series..how about someone does something about the crappy coverage instead?

Geez, even the GT1 world championship has live streaming of all events, I have no idea why that seems to be impossible for the LMS.

LeMans.pt · 10 Sep 2010, 00:14 (Ref:2757059)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Read the article: http://twitpic.com/2mout4
(...)and Audi has only one compmany to do marketing with in North America (Audi of America), while in Europe, Audi has to work with their various European arms.

What a lovely bunch of crap from Audi...

Canada ALMS fan · 10 Sep 2010, 00:49 (Ref:2757066)

BMW America and Honda Performance Division in California funded their ALMS programs so why couldn't Audi do the same? I believe that's how they did it in the past too.

The Badger · 10 Sep 2010, 01:08 (Ref:2757071)

I reckon joest will do it . Joest would have no issues running ALMS & LMIC together . He ran Group C in the 80's & 90's with no bother , along with IMSA and Le mans .

Audi want to win obviously ..... Joest do it like no other , and I mean like no other . In my opinion , the best team ever to grace this planet . Nobody comes near with respect to sportscars , ever .

JAG · 10 Sep 2010, 01:14 (Ref:2757075)

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Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

What a lovely bunch of crap from Audi...

Audi have been pushing for a World Sportscar Championship for the past decade.

Like in the Group C years any such series would be based in Europe.

As the LMS has only ever been five or six rounds there's no need for Audi to commit to that series, they may as well push the ACO to extend the European leg of the ILMC by another round or two. At that point 50%+ of the LMS rounds would count towards the ILMC anyhow.

As for TV and media coverage that will come as the prestige of the series increases, for example Eurosport are giving the Silverstone round five hours of coverage as opposed to less than an hour or for the Portimao and Hungaroring rounds.

fiend540 · 10 Sep 2010, 01:35 (Ref:2757077)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

Provided that Peugeot does a full LMS season next year, what good will it Audi do to run a full ALMS season. Who will they be racing against? There is barely any competition or did I miss something..

The best tv package is worthless when you have no one to race against.

Provided that Audi does a full ALMS season next year, what good will it do for Peugeot to run a full LMS season? Who will they be racing against? There is barely any competition or did I miss something?

Canada ALMS fan · 10 Sep 2010, 03:35 (Ref:2757094)

Autosport reported a while ago that the LMS would ban works teams from non ILMC rounds next year, I'm not sure if it was fact or rumour... Peugeot may have to race in the ALMS too to get track time.

HORNDAWG · 10 Sep 2010, 04:54 (Ref:2757107)

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Originally Posted by Mal

Its early days - lets give it a chance shall we. It may not have made a difference to Petit - but it certainly has for Silverstone and Asia

Umm, the increase in grid numbers at Silverstone comes about by the FLM being included this year. The werks diesels are there this year, but P-1 has only 1 more car than last year.

L.P.

Mal · 10 Sep 2010, 05:14 (Ref:2757112)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Umm, the increase in grid numbers at Silverstone comes about by the FLM being included this year. The werks diesels are there this year, but P-1 has only 1 more car than last year.

L.P.

Whatever - I think it should be given a chance and I for one am happy to see the works cars go head to head more times than they have in the past.

JAG · 10 Sep 2010, 16:22 (Ref:2757326)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Umm, the increase in grid numbers at Silverstone comes about by the FLM being included this year. The werks diesels are there this year, but P-1 has only 1 more car than last year.

L.P.

Six factory P1's as opposed to the solitary ORECA plus the addition of the recent ALMS LMP winner in Drayson are massive additions.

One off entries from the above were possible but the ILMC now guarantees the best sportscars in the world will compete each year.

On a seperate note I see Aston Martin are announcing their plans tommorow.

Is 2011 too soon for the factory team, JOTA and TBA (ALMS?) to all run?

Down F0rce · 10 Sep 2010, 17:38 (Ref:2757370)

Dave Richards said, in an interview during the 24 Hours, that Aston Martin would return to P1 as long as there was equality between the petrols and the diesels. Otherwise, they would focus on the 2011 GT class. I'm not sure what I want really... the P1 Aston was a glorious sounding machine but they'll never bet Peugeot or Audi, whereas they could renew their battles with Corvette in the GT class.

HORNDAWG · 10 Sep 2010, 17:55 (Ref:2757378)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Six factory P1's as opposed to the solitary ORECA plus the addition of the recent ALMS LMP winner in Drayson are massive additions.
The main difference from last years grid being the addition of the werks programs of Audi and Peugeot! Drayson showing is a given(per se), just a class upgrade this year. No Kolles this year and some shuffling of privateer and boutique mfgs. 2008 was a stellar year for P-1.

One off entries from the above were possible but the ILMC now guarantees the best sportscars in the world will compete each year.

On a seperate note I see Aston Martin are announcing their plans tommorow.

Is 2011 too soon for the factory team, JOTA and TBA (ALMS?) to all run?

Curious to see if AMR will step up or focus on GT!

L.P.

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