ELMS ELMS 2013 Discussion - Page 4

The Badger · 12 Dec 2012, 20:36 (Ref:3178154)

Felbermayr intend doing a GTE/Am effort , but I dont know if its WEC or ELMS .

cmk · 12 Dec 2012, 20:43 (Ref:3178159)

With the lack of a 2013 997, the only reason a Porsche team would want to run in GTE-PRO is if they magically found the money for a pro driver lineup. It seems the deck was stacked against ELMS 2013 being anything but GTE-AM.

I find this is disappointing, if only because it makes a new team like RAM have to down-spec their cars in order to compete. Not a problem on its own (though it would have been interesting to see their PRO driver lineups), but it surely reduces their competitiveness in the 'selected other races' they plan on running.

Graham Goodwin · 12 Dec 2012, 20:45 (Ref:3178161)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Any of those trickle over to WEC now then?

No

rich07 · 13 Dec 2012, 06:47 (Ref:3178279)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Final confirmation yesterday I gather - Its a numbers game - only 4 GTE Pros would have confirmed - All Ferraris

Thanks for the confirmation Graham, I too was under the impression that GT PRO would be part of ELMS next year. Good to see a new team like RAM coming into the series. Going by the PR they're very lucky to have such a hands off benefactor who would prefer to remain anonymous. Most teams would kill to have someone like that.

The Badger · 13 Dec 2012, 15:28 (Ref:3178376)

Slowly gathering pace it seems : http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-14825.html

AF Racing ..... wasnt Lopez the 2nd driver in the Pecom car ? Is this anything to do with AF Corse ?

LeManske · 13 Dec 2012, 20:28 (Ref:3178446)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Slowly gathering pace it seems : http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-14825.html

AF Racing ..... wasnt Lopez the 2nd driver in the Pecom car ? Is this anything to do with AF Corse ?

No, that was Perez-Companq. Speaking of AF Corse: 1 GTE-AM Ferrari Confirmed and possible GTC car also.

LeManske · 13 Dec 2012, 20:57 (Ref:3178449)

Probably will be cursed, because to soon, but love making these lists, Possible entries for 2013, based on every news I picked up so far:

LMP2
Morand Racing / Morgan LMP2 - confirmed
Boutsen Ginion Racing / Oreca 03 - confirmed
OAK Racing / Morgan LMP2 - maybe ASLMS or WEC only
Race Performance / Oreca 03 - likely
TDS Racing / Oreca 03 - likely
Extreme Limite / Norma M200 - likely
Greaves Motorsport / Zytek Z11SN - likely
Jota Sport / Zytek Z11SN - likely
AF Racing Intl / TBA - let's wait and see
Team Lotus / Lotus T128 - was on EI they would have interest
SLR / Oreca 03 - Don't know with Sebastien doing GT Sprint Series
Murphy Prototypes / Oreca 03 - Maybe ALMS program instead

LMPC
Boutsen Ginion Racing / Oreca FLM09 - either LMPC or GT3

GTE
RAM Racing / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - confirmed
AF Corse / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - confirmed
JMB Racing / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - confirmed
Kessel Racing / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - likely
JMW Motorsport / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - likely
TBA / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - rumoured Hallyday and Beltoise driving
MTECH / Ferrari 458 Italia GTC - rumoured, but probably GT Open
IMSA Performance / Porsche 911 GT3-RSR - likely
ProSpeed Competition / Porsche 911 GT3-RSR - maybe only BES program
Felbermayr-Proton / Porsche 911 GT3-RSR - AM program either ELMS or WEC
Gulf Racing Middle East - Aston Martin Vantage GTE - rumoured

GTC
AF Corse / Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 - very likely
JMB Racing / Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 - very likely
Pro GT by Alméras / Porsche 911 GT3 R - very likely
Autorlando Sport / Porsche 911 GT3 R - very likelyBoutsen Ginion Racing / McLaren MP4-12C GT3 - either LMPC or GT3
Gulf Racing UK / McLaren MP4-12C GT3 - tested already last year so...
Beechdean Motorsport / Aston Martin Vantage GT3 - rumoured on EI
TDS Racing - looking at GTC also

lms · 13 Dec 2012, 21:32 (Ref:3178458)

extreme limite are trying to sell their junk i think, greaves to wec

MitchZ06 · 13 Dec 2012, 23:45 (Ref:3178503)

I'd say Boutsen might be more likely to race in GTC with the McLaren.

pablocomics · 14 Dec 2012, 00:34 (Ref:3178517)

The ELMS isn´t that dead.... BTW, you forgot the Oreca team on the LMPC class, they was going to enter with a different name

Edited: Team endurance challenge, that was the name

And endurance Info talked about the posibility of a second Zytek for Jota long time ago...

FstrthnU · 14 Dec 2012, 05:53 (Ref:3178579)

http://www.motorsport.com/endurance/...-2013-program/
AF Corse confirms 1 car for ELMS GTE w/ Jean-Marc Bachelier, Yannick Mallegol and Howard Blank.

Tzyghan · 14 Dec 2012, 06:37 (Ref:3178589)

About Felbermayr - they're still in Porsche?

The Badger · 14 Dec 2012, 07:46 (Ref:3178594)

Status GP are in too , from what I understand , again , with a Lola , in conjunction with someone else .

Simmi · 14 Dec 2012, 07:55 (Ref:3178595)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Status GP are in too , from what I understand , again , with a Lola , in conjunction with someone else .

They've confirmed a WEC programme in conjunction with HVM.

Juntos · 16 Dec 2012, 01:46 (Ref:3179060)

Gulf Racing UK's McLaren MP4-12C GT3 won't have an ELMS destiny.

rich07 · 16 Dec 2012, 01:51 (Ref:3179064)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

Gulf Racing UK's McLaren MP4-12C GT3 won't have an ELMS destiny.

Were they even looking at ELMS in the first place?

Juntos · 16 Dec 2012, 01:53 (Ref:3179066)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Were they even looking at ELMS in the first place?

Why would you race a GT3 in ELMS in the first place?

rich07 · 16 Dec 2012, 05:25 (Ref:3179082)

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Originally Posted by Juntos

Why would you race a GT3 in ELMS in the first place?

No I'd rather race in Blancpain which is where Gulf were last year so wondering why would they look at ELMS.

The Badger · 16 Dec 2012, 07:00 (Ref:3179093)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

They've confirmed a WEC programme in conjunction with HVM.

Oh right ..... I thought it was ELMS , cheers for that bit of info

MitchZ06 · 16 Dec 2012, 07:31 (Ref:3179105)

They tested with the ELMS at Paul Ricard at the start of the year wearing #90 on an orange number sticker with Am stickers......

Who knows, they might do select rounds.

The Badger · 16 Dec 2012, 08:14 (Ref:3179107)

Am stickers on a P2 Lola !?!?!?

MitchZ06 · 16 Dec 2012, 09:24 (Ref:3179119)

Err, was wrong on the numberboard colour but right on the rest....

lucky snake · 16 Dec 2012, 12:36 (Ref:3179157)

"tested" is a big word, the engine of car exploded after a pair of laps.
Little OT, this is how should be the 2013 mp4-12c gt3. Basicly is almost the same aero updates that dorr and gemballa received for VLN and 24H of nurburgring.

MitchZ06 · 16 Dec 2012, 12:54 (Ref:3179158)

Still needs a bigger splitter (can't exactly tell if it is bigger in that pic).

lucky snake · 16 Dec 2012, 15:05 (Ref:3179177)

i can't remember if was alvaro parente or someone else, but in an interview before the 2011 24hours of spa, he said that the mp4-12c and the sls gt3 were the cars with more downforce on the front, so I think that the splitter in the pic has been done bigger just to balance the car once equipped with that higher and maybe wider giant rear wing. 2012 shown that the mp4-12c is extremely competitive in the hands of great drivers and teams! the main problem remains always the same: reliability of the engine.
Speaking about GT3, i hope that the 2013 458 GT3 will use a more conventional rear wing and not that so IMHO ugly one.

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