LM24 Dyson MGs not at Le Mans - Page 2

danhx · 26 Mar 2003, 22:51 (Ref:549384)

I think it would take some sort of horrifying, traumatic even to cause a sportscar driver to avoid Le Mans. Mark Webber is one of the few i can think of as having a good reason to obstain (he is the one that had the worst of the mercedes flights of the week during the race in '99 right?)

Graham Goodwin · 26 Mar 2003, 23:10 (Ref:549412)

I don't think Andy is struggling for offers!

paul-collins · 27 Mar 2003, 14:50 (Ref:550035)

danhx - you are correct, he flew twice.

**Aysedasi** · 27 Mar 2003, 16:25 (Ref:550121)

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Originally posted by Graham Goodwin
I don't think Andy is struggling for offers!

Good. I just hope he finds a berth worthy of his talents.

halfwitt · 28 Mar 2003, 07:32 (Ref:550753)

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Originally posted by danhx
I think it would take some sort of horrifying, traumatic even to cause a sportscar driver to avoid Le Mans. Mark Webber is one of the few i can think of as having a good reason to obstain (he is the one that had the worst of the mercedes flights of the week during the race in '99 right?)

I thought it was Peter Dumbreck.........

**Aysedasi** · 28 Mar 2003, 08:18 (Ref:550785)

Yes, I thought it was Webber 2 Dumbreck 1 - but Dumbreck's was the flight during the race.

kdr · 28 Mar 2003, 11:16 (Ref:550919)

yep...webber in qualifying and saturday morning warm up. dumbreck during race. i saw webber running towards the mercedes garage immediately after the dumbreck incident, with face like thunder.

bernard b · 28 Mar 2003, 12:25 (Ref:550997)

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Originally posted by kdr
i saw webber running towards the mercedes garage immediately after the dumbreck incident, with face like thunder.

I saw him at noon in the paddock, and his face was so white it was really frightening

Fab · 28 Mar 2003, 15:00 (Ref:551149)

Pescarolo took off during a test in Les Hunaudières in 1967, had an enourmous wreck (burning car, long time lay in a bed at hospital), and he won four times... some come back, some don't... we're all human beeing, after all, to have fear is normal (I don't know if Jean-Pierre Beltoise is known by British public, but he hated Le Mans and didn't want to race it, despite the fact he was able to take a lot of risks in F1...).

gi_gav · 28 Mar 2003, 15:07 (Ref:551153)

Bear in mind also that Michael Schumacher has cited Le Mans as being too dangerous (not that he'd come back anyway)

iucrmh · 28 Mar 2003, 15:08 (Ref:551156)

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Originally posted by kdr
yep...webber in qualifying and saturday morning warm up. dumbreck during race. i saw webber running towards the mercedes garage immediately after the dumbreck incident, with face like thunder.

I think Webber also had a big accident in the May test session in that car as well, although whether that accident was a flip-over or not is the point of some dispute; similar part of the circuit though.

The second Mercedes that actually took the start, was called in straight after the Dumbreck incident, the driver was understood to have said that he was going to come in anyway, whether called or not

Fab · 28 Mar 2003, 15:16 (Ref:551169)

Yannick Dalmas took off in �* Porsche in 1998, but I'm not sure of the track (in United States I think, but where ?)...

gi_gav · 28 Mar 2003, 15:24 (Ref:551181)

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Originally posted by Fab
Yannick Dalmas took off in �* Porsche in 1998, but I'm not sure of the track (in United States I think, but where ?)...

It was also Dalmas driving when the Goh Audi apparently flipped at Le Mans last year, (although there was a lot of debate as to whether the car flipped or just briefly went off the ground at one side because of a tyre blowout.)

Fab · 28 Mar 2003, 15:52 (Ref:551215)

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Originally posted by gi_gav
It was also Dalmas driving when the Goh Audi apparently flipped at Le Mans last year, (although there was a lot of debate as to whether the car flipped or just briefly went off the ground at one side because of a tyre blowout.)

I even didn't noticed that the car flipped ! I remember they had a wreck during qualifications, but couldn't remember why...

danhx · 28 Mar 2003, 16:47 (Ref:551273)

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Originally posted by Aysedasi
Yes, I thought it was Webber 2 Dumbreck 1 - but Dumbreck's was the flight during the race.

Ah, i thought it was Webber who flew during the race...Okay so there's two guys who have a good reason to fear La Sarthe. But seeing as how one has joined the circus (a.k.a. F1) and the other DTM i don't think they'll be back for a while. And probably never in a GTP!!

danhx · 28 Mar 2003, 16:52 (Ref:551279)

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Originally posted by Fab
Yannick Dalmas took off in �* Porsche in 1998, but I'm not sure of the track (in United States I think, but where ?)...

Road Atlanta. I know a guy who was standing right there when it happened. He said it was most impressive. They've since "shaved" that hump that was on that straight to prevent that happening, but it didn't work...Who was it that flew in the BMW in '00? Was it Lehto? I know a guy who saw that one too. Perhaps my friends should stay away from races!

gi_gav · 28 Mar 2003, 16:59 (Ref:551288)

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Originally posted by danhx
Who was it that flew in the BMW in '00?

I think it was Bill Auberlen.

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Perhaps my friends should stay away from races!

Or perhaps you should join them with a camera!!

Graham Goodwin · 28 Mar 2003, 17:36 (Ref:551332)

Yannick's 'moment' in the Goh Audi was caused by a wing failure - the car didn't flip but lifted off briefly laterally (ie the right hand side got high rather than the front)

danhx · 28 Mar 2003, 19:13 (Ref:551413)

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Originally posted by gi_gav
Or perhaps you should join them with a camera!!

Or give them a camera...Wouldn't want to be there if one of the cars landed outside the track.

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