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Old 5 Dec 2023, 11:04 (Ref:4188328)   #1
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British Rallycross 2024

5 Nations calendar for the year revealed this morning:

30 March/1 April - Lydden Hill
25/26 May - Mondello Park
20/21 July - Lydden Hill*
17 August - Lydden Hill**
TBC - Pembrey
2/3 November - Lydden Hill

* Supercars and Juniors only, part of the Lydden Legend Festival
** 2WD classes only: joint event with BTRDA?

Great year for those of us in the South, but maybe not so great for those elsewhere. Shame to see the joint event with the French Championship dropped as well, though maybe not surprising given the reduction in attendees for Dreux this year.

And a joint event with the BTRDA? Has the unthinkable happened? Do we have peace in our time?
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5 Nations calendar for the year revealed this morning:

30 March/1 April - Lydden Hill
25/26 May - Mondello Park
20/21 July - Lydden Hill*
17 August - Lydden Hill**
TBC - Pembrey
2/3 November - Lydden Hill

* Supercars and Juniors only, part of the Lydden Legend Festival
** 2WD classes only: joint event with BTRDA?

Great year for those of us in the South, but maybe not so great for those elsewhere. Shame to see the joint event with the French Championship dropped as well, though maybe not surprising given the reduction in attendees for Dreux this year.

And a joint event with the BTRDA? Has the unthinkable happened? Do we have peace in our time?
Very jealous of anybody who lives within striking distance of Lydden. I love rallycross but I'm not as engaged with it as in the past. Combination of the debacle the WRX etc has become, serious lack of available coverage and Croft having called time on it.

That looks like a good selection of meetings. Just need a decent European meeting at Lydden and you'll be in rallycross heaven!

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Very jealous of anybody who lives within striking distance of Lydden.
Yeah, living an hour away from Lydden I'm trying not to look too pleased about this years calendar, but it isn't easy...

I can see the calendar this year being a bit of a blow for rallycross fans in the North, but I think the Championship are doing their best with what is available to them and what is best (financially) for the competitors.

I loved the two trips to Dreux the last two years, but the dropping entry numbers for that event and the 2WD round in Belgium, indicated that wasn't what the drivers wanted.

Also really pleased to see the 5 Nations/BTRDA link up. More than ever I think the sport needs to be unified if it is to survive, I hope that the relationship there continues.
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Yeah, living an hour away from Lydden I'm trying not to look too pleased about this years calendar, but it isn't easy...

I can see the calendar this year being a bit of a blow for rallycross fans in the North, but I think the Championship are doing their best with what is available to them and what is best (financially) for the competitors.

I loved the two trips to Dreux the last two years, but the dropping entry numbers for that event and the 2WD round in Belgium, indicated that wasn't what the drivers wanted.

Also really pleased to see the 5 Nations/BTRDA link up. More than ever I think the sport needs to be unified if it is to survive, I hope that the relationship there continues.
Good they are working together. A lot of classes between them though, catering for different budgets.

We haven't had rallycross in the North for a while now, so calender was no surprise. From my limited knowledge it looks dead and buried at Croft, certainly for the foreseeable future. No chance of any new venues. Blyton I've never taken to and Knockhill is the best part of 4 hours away, which isn't worth it for what are usually pretty poor entries. I'd love to go to Lydden but just way too far. Could have just about justified it when WRX was it's height but not now.
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Yep its going to be an expensive time making the trips down to Lydden from Newcastle and back next year, tho ill try and get to as many as i can. The lack of venues that are available is a real problem and unfortunately I cant really see that changing any time soon, tho ill still hope that Croft will return one day
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We haven't had rallycross in the North for a while now, so calender was no surprise. From my limited knowledge it looks dead and buried at Croft, certainly for the foreseeable future.
I saw a few comments on Facebook talking about the return of a circuit rally event to Croft, so I live in hope that rallycross might return there at some point.

After seeing the connection established between 5 Nations and BTRDA, I'm ready to believe anything can happen now!

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No chance of any new venues. Blyton I've never taken to and Knockhill is the best part of 4 hours away, which isn't worth it for what are usually pretty poor entries.
I was at Blyton earlier this year for the first time since 2014 and I forgot just how bleak the place is. I know the circuit doesn't have the required approval for Supercar but, even if it did, I just can't picture the circuit hosting a 5 Nations round.

I'd really like to go to Knockhill as I have heard praise for the layout of the rallycross circuit, but it is in deepest, darkest, Scotland and is pretty much the opposite end of the country to me.

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I'd love to go to Lydden but just way too far. Could have just about justified it when WRX was it's height but not now.
The Legend festival might justify the trip? Obviously we are a long way off entries yet, but if they can pull in a good haul of European retro cars/drivers then it should be a decent weekend and could be worth the journey.

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Yep its going to be an expensive time making the trips down to Lydden from Newcastle and back next year, tho ill try and get to as many as i can. The lack of venues that are available is a real problem and unfortunately I cant really see that changing any time soon, tho ill still hope that Croft will return one day
Yeah. Again referring to the Facebook comments, I saw a few people asking for new venues like there is an abundance of them out there waiting to be found.
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I saw a few comments on Facebook talking about the return of a circuit rally event to Croft, so I live in hope that rallycross might return there at some point.

The Legend festival might justify the trip? Obviously we are a long way off entries yet, but if they can pull in a good haul of European retro cars/drivers then it should be a decent weekend and could be worth the journey.
Yes rallying is back at Croft, but in an article I saw a while back, can't remember where, the circuit manager seemed to suggest they ended for separate reasons.

In his words 'it's not for us to support local rallying' or something along similar lines. The inference was support as in financially. Presumably it was a money thing, which has now been resolved.

Rallycross was due to dwindling meetings, which is a fair point and the resurfacing of the track, which cost 850k. After the demise of the Superprix the meetings for me had started to dwindle. The GP was OK for a couple of years but the format didn't really work I felt. All into together meant the 2WD stuff didn't have a chance and it was noticeable that numbers dropped off as did overseas entries. BTRDA offered something, particularly that one off 2WD masters they ran. Think it was this where they had a separate supercar class as well and a few top cars came out for fun or to test. Last British meeting I attended was pretty boring to be honest. Low numbers for Croft and very processional racing.

Legends might be an option if entry strong. Realistically though it will mean an overnight, which will shove the cost up. Only get to a few meetings every year but haven't decided what I'm doing next year yet, so could be an option. Always try and make one event further afield.
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That is not really a calendar is it, sorry but that is the most ridiculous things I have ever bloody seen/
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That is not really a calendar is it, sorry but that is the most ridiculous things I have ever bloody seen/
They don't have many options really do they? Pembrey and Lydden are the only viable circuits in the UK - supercars can't run at Blyton, Knockhill always suffers with low entries and Croft isn't available. What other options do they have? A trip to Mondello is a good option as would be a trip to France / Belgium / netherlands - but in the interests of keeping costs down you'd not want more than one 'long haul' round.

On another note I see Colin Anson is advertising the ex Chris Evans Astra for sale (as well as his Ka).
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That is not really a calendar is it, sorry but that is the most ridiculous things I have ever bloody seen/
As Bert has said, what other options are there? There is a lack of circuits in the UK and the trips to Europe the last two years have had dwindling numbers.

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On another note I see Colin Anson is advertising the ex Chris Evans Astra for sale (as well as his Ka).
I saw that. After seemingly spending so long getting the Astra running again I thought he might make more use of it... but maybe because of the time taken to get it running again that is why he is selling?

Wonder if the Astra and Ka are going to fund another rallycross car, or if he has other plans?
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After seemingly spending so long getting the Astra running again I thought he might make more use of it... but maybe because of the time taken to get it running again that is why he is selling?

Wonder if the Astra and Ka are going to fund another rallycross car, or if he has other plans?
The Ka has been advertised for sale on and off for a few years now - maybe it's just similar with the Astra? If someone offers the money for it he'll take it otherwise carry on using it?
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The Ka has been advertised for sale on and off for a few years now - maybe it's just similar with the Astra? If someone offers the money for it he'll take it otherwise carry on using it?
I could be remembering it wrong, but I'm sure he actually sold the Ka, then bought it back to use while the Astra was being rebuilt?

(Sure he said it on Facebook somewhere: but maybe I am getting my wires crossed!)
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I'm sure he was planning on using the Astra last year but a long lead time in getting the correct parts force a re-buy of the KA to get back driving last year. Really hope to see it out soon ������.

Going back to the track selection, there really is no other viable UK tracks that could be used unfortunately. Most either have never had a Rx circuit or not interested in holding a meeting. For Croft, the loose section is still there, a little over grown with grass in places but still there. With the rallying, there used to be 2 rally's both organised by different clubs, Darlington District Motor Club and Northallerton Automobile Club. For 2022, they both worked together to help convince Croft to give rallying another go and it worked and so from 2024 it's being reinstalled in the calendar. On a side note, a local business man also helped massively to get it going and one who has Rx history, Kevin Proctor.
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John McCluskey confirms full 5 Nations season:

5 Nations - McCluskey Returns to 5 Nations

Hopefully an Irish Fiesta (or two) joins the mix as well.
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That's good news - looks like it should be a competitive field in supercar, hopefully get some more details around other entries soon.
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