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But who's going to pay the bills for all the damaged cars?
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Moving beyond those 7 core events would need extra funding, but I doubt the series would expand so quickly unless there was a funded, high quality event, for example Montreal or China. |
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Personally i feel there arent any true high speed tracks anymore on the sportscar calender, im pretty sure the fastest track on the LMS calender now is a toss up between Spa and Silverstone, why the hell Monza was dropped from the calender i will never know, now that is a properly good venue for Sportscar racing |
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By the time this gets off the ground I'd expect at least one Japanease manufactuer to be competing in P1 plus a couple of European manufactuers, if not they'll just continue as is with the LMS. |
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very good idea!
Maybe this why there's been rumours of Audi's return, namely Kristensen recommitting himself 100% to sportscars next year? |
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So long as US teams play there part and come across to Europe.
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11 Jun 2009, 14:13 (Ref:2480099) | #84 | ||
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Just guessing but because Sebring and Petit are both out of season for the LMS regulars is that why they can attend those races. The ALMS season is longer and more spread out over the year and I think it would require schedule alterations in order for the US teams to have the time (plus money) to come over to Europe.
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11 Jun 2009, 15:48 (Ref:2480168) | #86 | ||
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What American teams? This is solely for P1 cars, right now there are two Acuras, Intersport, Corsa and Autocon. Acura is a purely American brand, Corsa is according to the bear looking for money just to do any more ALMS race and the other two are gentleman-driver operations.
Acura might do it, but this would mean a pullout from full-season ALMS and some say the series wouldn't survive this. Or would be degraded to solely being the American leg of the Intercontinental Trophy. Oh, and dx1: The World Championship only went kaputt in 1992. |
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The LMS has the high participation of competitors, but paltry crowds at its events.... The ALMS now lacks competitors since Audi and Porsche chose not to race in P1 and P2, respectively, but their races draw great crowds.... Personally, if you read "Paying to Race" Parts 1 and 2 over at www.lastturnclub.com , those articles will tell everyone here why an "International" or "World" Series will not work....the $$$ aren't there to run domestically, let alone fly to various parts of the world to do it.... |
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If there's no ALMS the question is what would happen to the Panoz owned circuits of Sebring, Road Atlanta and is it Mosport? They'll either become part of an ACO schedule, Grand Am, or an indepedent event. |
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Panoz does not own Sebring. There are other events at the facilities, they are not just for the ALMS.
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According to a quick google and wikipedia search it looks like the Panoz Motorsports Group owns Mosport, Road Atlanta and Sebring. They would be smart to rent track time throughout the year to make money and increase the potential race pool and it looks like they do at all 3 tracks.
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12 Jun 2009, 05:51 (Ref:2480721) | #92 | ||
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IIRC Sebring isn't owened by Panoz but he has a long term leasing contract for it.
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Unless things have changed, the land that the race is run on is owned by the Sebring Airport Authority. Panoz does own the Sebring International Raceway, Corp. which holds the lease to the property that the race is run on and the exclusive rights to run the race. Sept. 2/99 entry also ref.
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Other events are held at these circuits but I'm more interested in what would happen to the Sebring 12hrs and PLM, events that stand by themselves like the Le Mans 24hr and Daytona 24hr.
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I'm sure that this World Series is to help keep these series alive. They'll probably have to adjust calendars in all series for this to happen so I doubt we'll have similar calendars as we had this season. Maybe ALMS will have less races (1 or 2) but there's certainly space on the calendar to move things around.
At the moment, if they were to put 6 to 8 events, I'd think they'll want to include the Asian LM events in there I'd think to promote them. That means 6 more events to choose, at least Sebring, PLM and Laguna. I think they'll want to fit Spa in there, no? Means Utah would have to be adjusted. Silverstone and Road Atlanta are other ones. Coin flipping at the moment! |
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We have to wait and see what Audi is planning. That would affect the ALMS scenario. Acura won't stay much longer if no other teams join. But if they're way behind Audi, also, it won't be much fun. To have 3 from Europe included which is reasonable, they'll definitely have to re-arrange the calendars since most LMS events over lap with ALMS. |
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It's virtually impossible to have no overlaps, and that's not the intention of the whole thing. Here's what the series will most probably look like: March: Sebring May: Spa August: Nürburgring September I: Silverstone September II: PLM October I: Laguna Seca October II: Okayama November: Shanghai If they go for 6 races instead of 8, 2 of Nürburgring, Laguna and Shanghai will be dropped. IMO this is a nice idea for the manufacturers to race for something meaningful without having to enter a full championship and it allows privateers to go once again for the LMS-title, which might help that series as well. But it might be a disaster for the ALMS if it keeps full season factory teams (Audi comes to mind) away... GT-eins.de said that the manufacturers lobbied to have a trophy like this, and there aren't that many manufacturers in P1 right now, so this might very well what Audi might do instead of returning to the ALMS. |
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"Intercontinental Trophy", couldn't they think of any less generic name?
(At least Autosport mentioned this name... with capital letters) |
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