TilkeWannabe's Tracks

[Yannick]

TW, in terms of both the flow and the blot shape, I think that "JS Speedway" is your best design yet. The main spectator area between the two straights is cool, too, and could be even bigger if continued along the whole of the pit area.
I'd love to try it out on a simulator. Regarding elevation changes and such, may I suggest a strong camber for Turn 4?

[Stig]

Not bad at all. The first three corners make up an interesting section, and turn 8 stands out as a great overtaking opportunity. As you could probably figure out by now, I like fast corners so I would probably throw in a high speed kink or chicane in the long back straight. But, that's just me

[Tathrim]

Well, it woulnt be major, as such, and it'll be easier to describe it to you instead, as it isn't that bad, lookign at it again.

All I'd do would be to...

...merge 1 to 3 in a single turn (I don't like chicanes at the start if a hairpin will do the same thing, don't know why ), opening out 4 to compenstae for runoff, which indirectly gives extra speed in to 5, 6 and 7.

...open out six a shade more in to 7, and tightening 7, meaning a better opportunity at 7.

...extend the run between 5 and six, which indirectly extends the run to 12 from 11 , increasing the chances of the opportunities at both 7 and 12.

...make 12 and 13 a single corner, by opening 11 out EVEN MORE, incrasing speed at the last turn, which is all good.

Sorry for the fuss, but I wasn't awake enough to give a description. I'm also starting to think about my next SU project, but progress is slow.

[LuiggiSpeed]

Originally Posted by TilkeWannabe

Now, before I go to get dressed up for the Valedictory, I wanna post a track. This one's called JS (I was desperate for a name at the time) and it's called that because it looks like a cross between a J and S. I haven't got any elevation changes to speak of which is a bugger but here it is. I'm sorry it's a bit squished but I was in a hurry cutting it down to size. Enjoy.

Tilke, the beauty of your design here,is that it can be made out of an abandoned airport, matter of fact it reminded me somehow of the Fajardo proyect,though space limitations prohibited going that far away from the runway,it still uses the same principle of paralel straights,very eficient if you ask me.

[LuiggiSpeed]

If rotate this pic by 90 degrees,you'll see it's somehow alike.

[TilkeWannabe]

Thx for the comments guys! I thought after what Tathy (lol) said about it, I thought it would go downhill from then on, but MAN was I wrong. A hat-trick for me and counting, SCORE!

@Tathy: Ohhh, I was expecting an edit, but it's not your fault you were half-awake. Doesn't matter.

@LuiggiSpeed: I thought it sounded funny when you said "I'd like you to break that up a little bit." Sounded to me like you were kinda telling him off but I can see where you're coming from on the safety aspects of it with you being a motorcycle rider and all. But say, you were in a car, more specifically an F1 car, I'd guess that track would call for a medium or medium-low downforce set-up. If that were the case, and that would be the case for most racing cars having wings, they would have enough downforce to take that without falling off the track and crashing heavily into a tyre wall. Maybe it would be more suited for cars rather then bikes.

I can also see where you're coming from with your Fajardo project being similar to mine in some aspects. At first, it sounded like my track would've been downgraded if it were built over an abandoned airport compared to brand spanking new. I don't know whether I mentioned it before, but I do liike your motorbike track, it would be a lot of fun, maybe in a high-powered go-kart or something for me personally, I wouldn't know about riding a powerful road bike around it though, but I have driven a go-kart before and it was fun, except for when I stalled it just after coming out of the pit lane!

I still haven't got my head 'round the fact that I've finished school for good and I'm NEVER doing it again and that I've got the rest of my life ahead of me. I know I should but......right now I feel that it's nothing but I know it is and will be.

Thx anyway LS.

[Tathrim]

TilkeWannabe: I would prefer you didn't call me Tathy, but I'll also explain that the track is being designed as I pack for an overnight hike tonight and prepare for a race on Sunday morning. It's also the reason why I don't have as many offerings as other people.

On topic: I see wherre you are comong from there, LuiggiSpeed. Nice edit of SBF's

[TilkeWannabe]

Sorry Tathrim.

If it's alright with you, I'd like to get back on topic with my next one. This one is an "edit" of sorts but it's basically the Bilbao street circuit being turned into a putpose-built race track near Bilbao somewhere.

Here's the Bilbao street circuit from 2005 onwards. Whether it's still being used is beyond me.











And here's the "edit" I did of it.

[TilkeWannabe]

Double post

Sorry the posting didn't quite work properly. Anyway, my "edit" is basically the same shape as the original, but I changed it a bit to suit my taste. My edit would include elevations, such as the rise after going under the bridge up to turn 3, but not a large rise. Most of the track is flat, but there's a descent from turns 8-10, flattens out and then drops slightly again up to turn 13, then it's flat going to the S/F straight. Enjoy.

[AU N EGL]

I like that T4 though T14 section.

[mattt]

Can't really fault the long one but i may have an edit for the shorter track basically go over the bridge and take it to the right about halfway along that straight, making it a nice smooth run into the rest of the track

I might get round to doing an edit of it sometime

[Tathrim]

Can't really fault that one. Good job.

[ScotsBrutesFan]

No you haven't all gone Mad...I've split my Seahorse track and discussion over to It's own thread as it was detracting from TW's own designs

[TilkeWannabe]

I'll be there ASAP.

Thx for the good words, guys.

[TilkeWannabe]

I'll post my next track after mattt's put his edit in.

[mattt]

The first corner is slightly cambered

This is a shorter track rather than the loop, instead of the chicaney type first corner

[ScotsBrutesFan]

I like what Matt has done, though it does raise the arguement about the bridge blocking the view on the approach to the short T1.

I didn't comment on this design, when first posted so...

Generally I like the shape when seen as a track rather than a street circuit. I'd have opened up the space 10/11/12 and the back of the grandstand to create a longer run between 13 and 14 but this would take away from the street circuit shape.

[TilkeWannabe]

Time to crank up this thread.

The next one I've done is sort of like what I did with Bilbao a while back. This one is called Espacio del Motor at Pinto outside of Madrid I think.

Now this was originally a Tilke design (not exactly a good start) which boasted a F1-spec figure-of-eight GP circuit inside a tri-oval, intended to start construction in 2007. A few years ago, I was looking through the proposals section of racingcircuits.net when I stumbled upon it. I liked the shape, but to me, it wasn't perfect, so I did a bit of tinkering with it, finally ending up changing the shape round a bit and scrapping the idea of a tri-oval round the outside. The length of the proposal is unknown to me, but I just came up with an arbitrary number for that part. Pictures are available on www.tilke-ac.de/ including more information on the dimensions, estimates on crowd capacity and other things.

First up is the proposal, then my figure-of-eight take on Pinto, and then for a change I did a non-figure of eight version. Enjoy.

[mattt]

I prefer the non figure of 8

[tlongman]

me too but they are both still good

[TilkeWannabe]

Thx matt, tlongman. Keep 'em comin' guys.

[Stig]

Both versions have their advantages but either way, nicely done. Definitely better than the proposal!

[TilkeWannabe]

Thx. You must be due for a new track soon too Stiggy.

I'll put my next one on now I think. This one is sort of like a tribute track, my 1st of 2 tribute tracks in my collection currently. This one is called the (Michael) Schumacher Ring. Obviously located in Germany somewhere, maybe outside Berlin. I felt I had to do a track in honour of Schuey because he's my favourite driver ever and I've been a big fan since I was 8.

I should point out that there is a missing bridge between turns 3 and 4, the pit lane wouldn't be that far in from the S/F straight and the paddock area can be bigger. Thanks to some changes at the original turn 15 (hairpin) which is now 15 and 16, the paddock has more room.

As for elevation changes, excluding the rise for the overpass, at about turn 9, the track would descend gently (not just a light dip, a proper elevation change.) and then return upwardsat about turn 10 and reach a sort of plateau at 11 and 12, descend again, slightly steep at first but flattens out heading down to 15 and 16, another gradual rise to 17 and down through 18 and flat again.

I got some inspiration from Zandvoort because I wanted the long main straight, Tarzan-bocht like 1st corner and the end bit (17 and 18) to be like the end of the current Zandvoort. Enjoy.

BTW, I bet no-one's been to that Tilke website either.

[Tathrim]

Nice attempt. 1 to 5 is a little busy for my liking, but otherwise, it's fine.

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Not sure why you'd want a bridge at 3-4 ?

If the run from 6-7 is over a bridge, then it's easy enough to include a second span over an access road that allows access to the T8 Grandstands. This access road could also extend into the paddock.