WEC Rebellion Racing - Page 55

TRspitfirefan · 7 May 2016, 23:28 (Ref:3639953)

Great to see Rebellion have such a good result at Spa!
Bring on Lemans!

rich07 · 8 May 2016, 00:26 (Ref:3639956)

Very happy to see the Rebellion guys on the outright podium it was a very happy outright podium. Hope we see this again at Le Mans. One never knows

bentley speed 8 · 8 May 2016, 08:24 (Ref:3640011)

Yes, Rebellion have a good chance this year. Reverting to the old AER seems to have worked.

MitchZ06 · 8 May 2016, 09:46 (Ref:3640034)

Not sure getting on the podium due to the factory cars falling by the wayside is anything to get excited about, if the factories are reliable for LM then 7-8 is all they'll be fighting for. Something needs to be done for LMP1-L and I hope these WEC races don't confuse things for the FIA/ACO.

Congrats on the podium to Rebellion, but let's be realistic.

GT6 · 8 May 2016, 10:05 (Ref:3640041)

Yes big congratulations to the team a fine result, and with the car seeming to be fast on the straights it could be even closer to the factory cars in a few weeks

Richard117 · 9 May 2016, 10:32 (Ref:3640290)

The chance of a winning privateer in Le Mans hasn't been that big in about 10 years. I'm really looking forward to it. Great job so far by Rebellion.

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 11:08 (Ref:3640300)

Well, 3rd or even 2nd place could be possible, but not winning. Even if there was only one factory car left, they could cruise in half speed saving off parts and still easily beat everyone else on pure performance.

Akrapovic · 9 May 2016, 11:32 (Ref:3640311)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Well, 3rd or even 2nd place could be possible, but not winning. Even if there was only one factory car left, they could cruise in half speed saving off parts and still easily beat everyone else on pure performance.

That makes the assumption that a factory car survives in a decent state. At Silverstone there was a terminal Audi. At Spa there was a terminal Porsche and 2 terminal Toyotas. And these are 6 hour races, so we're asking these cars to do 4 times the distance.

I'm not saying Rebellion will win. I don't think they will. But it is certainly possible given what we've witnessed in the opening 2 rounds.

Truckosaurus · 9 May 2016, 12:26 (Ref:3640318)

Indeed. Going on the performances from Silverstone and Spa you'd have to bet against the 6 factory P1s finishing LM in all the top 6 positions, so plenty of opportunity for Rebellion to rack up plenty more championship points even if they 'only' finish 4th, 5th or 6th.

TheMightyM · 9 May 2016, 12:33 (Ref:3640321)

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Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

Indeed. Going on the performances from Silverstone and Spa you'd have to bet against the 6 factory P1s finishing LM in all the top 6 positions, so plenty of opportunity for Rebellion to rack up plenty more championship points even if they 'only' finish 4th, 5th or 6th.

Points for what championship? They aren’t directly competing against the factory teams for anything aside from the drivers title.

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 12:49 (Ref:3640324)

Point for the if-the-scoring-system-wasn't-a-complete-joke-we-could-finally-actually-have-chance-of-actually-beating-the-factories-in-some-area-but-oh-well-until-then-they-are-just-imaginary-fantasy-points-some-nerds-on-forums-can-fight-over-while-others-claim-everything-is-perfect championship.

**joeb** · 9 May 2016, 13:13 (Ref:3640329)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Points for what championship? They aren’t directly competing against the factory teams for anything aside from the drivers title.

The championship Chiana keeps track of for us!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

Point for the if-the-scoring-system-wasn't-a-complete-joke-we-could-finally-actually-have-chance-of-actually-beating-the-factories-in-some-area-but-oh-well-until-then-they-are-just-imaginary-fantasy-points-some-nerds-on-forums-can-fight-over-while-others-claim-everything-is-perfect championship.

Truckosaurus · 9 May 2016, 13:18 (Ref:3640332)

By 'championship' I was just going by the league table on the Wikipedia page for the WEC, apologies if that is not an official one...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_F..._and_standings

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 13:22 (Ref:3640334)

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Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

By 'championship' I was just going by the league table on the Wikipedia page for the WEC, apologies if that is not an official one...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_F..._and_standings

It's just the previously mentioned drivers championship

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Originally Posted by joeb

The championship Chiana keeps track of for us!

Akrapovic · 9 May 2016, 13:26 (Ref:3640337)

Very odd series of posts.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Points for what championship? They aren’t directly competing against the factory teams for anything aside from the drivers title.

It even answers it's own question in the next sentence. They score points in the drivers championship. That's an official FIA World Championship.

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 14:10 (Ref:3640347)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Very odd series of posts.

It even answers it's own question in the next sentence. They score points in the drivers championship. That's an official FIA World Championship.

It wasn't an "actual" question from TheMightyM.

And the drivers championship is almost entirely meaningless to the teams.

Akrapovic · 9 May 2016, 14:14 (Ref:3640350)

Odd, because it's a legit answer.

It's a championship where they compete against the hybrid teams, and currently they sit 2nd and 4th. I see no reason why it should be disregarded.

Truckosaurus · 9 May 2016, 14:16 (Ref:3640352)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

...And the drivers championship is almost entirely meaningless to the teams.

Perhaps we need a vote on this... To me (as in F1) the Drivers Championship is the one to win, with the manufacturers one just something that gets put into a newspaper advert the following Monday and then forgotten about.

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 14:25 (Ref:3640355)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Odd, because it's a legit answer.

It's a championship where they compete against the hybrid teams, and currently they sit 2nd and 4th. I see no reason why it should be disregarded.

I'll let Mighty to answer the first.

As for the second, yeah it's at least something where they can compete together (then again, even as LMP2 team they could so it's not strictly unified LMP1 scoring even there), but it's the lesser of the champs they're interested in

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 14:31 (Ref:3640359)

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Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

Perhaps we need a vote on this... To me (as in F1) the Drivers Championship is the one to win, with the manufacturers one just something that gets put into a newspaper advert the following Monday and then forgotten about.

Sure in driver focused series like F1 or NASCAR or whatever, but not really here (to most anyway)

I honestly don't even remember who were the 2nd and 3rd drivers who won with Porsche at LM last year, and wouldn't the first either if it wasn't for the obvious F1 linkup

ILMC didn't even have drivers championships. It was good as it diverted everything to the teams.

Akrapovic · 9 May 2016, 15:08 (Ref:3640365)

I'd love to see someone tell Ant Davidson and Allan McNish their official FIA World Champion trophies are "entirely meaningless". Not sure you'd live to tell the tale afterwards. But yes, Rebellion don't complete with the hybrid teams, if you ignore when they do compete with each other.

Anyway, a big song and dance was made when Penske beat Audi in a P2 v P1 battle back in the ALMS days. Here we have a similar situation. How about we just enjoy it, rather than be determined to hate everything about it?

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 15:47 (Ref:3640376)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I'd love to see someone tell Ant Davidson and Allan McNish their official FIA World Champion trophies are "entirely meaningless". Not sure you'd live to tell the tale afterwards. But yes, Rebellion don't complete with the hybrid teams, if you ignore when they do compete with each other.

Anyway, a big song and dance was made when Penske beat Audi in a P2 v P1 battle back in the ALMS days. Here we have a similar situation. How about we just enjoy it, rather than be determined to hate everything about it?

Of course the drivers would say that.

As I said, whether or not they are running in LMP1 cartegory, they'd be eligible for the drivers championship (with LMP2)

How is it similar to ALMS situation?

**skycafe** · 9 May 2016, 15:55 (Ref:3640378)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

How about we just enjoy it

That sounds sensible!

Deleted · 9 May 2016, 16:34 (Ref:3640389)

The stock answer to everything

**Aysedasi** · 9 May 2016, 17:06 (Ref:3640396)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

I honestly don't even remember who were the 2nd and 3rd drivers who won with Porsche at LM last year, and wouldn't the first either if it wasn't for the obvious F1 linkup

I find that very hard indeed to believe from someone with extensive sportscar knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Chiana

The stock answer to everything

And probably as good an answer as you can get!

Time to turn that half-empty pint glass upside down, methinks!

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