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Old 1 Oct 2020, 21:12 (Ref:4007854)   #7876
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Teams have been told that they can't have anyone at Croft who lives in Newcastle, Sunderland, Durham, Tyneside, Northumberland or Gateshead.
Is that because of covid or simply because no bugger can understand a word they say?
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 06:30 (Ref:4007882)   #7877
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Couldn't WSR just ask BMW for support and offer the 3rd car to a factory driver?
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 06:50 (Ref:4007884)   #7878
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Given the economies of the majority of the countries of the world are somewhere between iffy and disastrous, non essential purchases are not being made in "normal" volume. Car makers including BMW are suffering somewhat.

I would think it very unlikely that putting additional money into sponsorship would go down well given book balancing efforts being undertaken to keep businesses afloat and the highly skilled workforce in employ.

Significant redundancies in automotive are likely to become inevitable the longer this situation continues.
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 07:42 (Ref:4007888)   #7879
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Given the economies of the majority of the countries of the world are somewhere between iffy and disastrous, non essential purchases are not being made in "normal" volume. Car makers including BMW are suffering somewhat.

I would think it very unlikely that putting additional money into sponsorship would go down well given book balancing efforts being undertaken to keep businesses afloat and the highly skilled workforce in employ.

Significant redundancies in automotive are likely to become inevitable the longer this situation continues.
Are you sure? Used car values have risen due to supply issues, BMW Mini shut down their third shift and then restarted it 3 weeks later!
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 07:57 (Ref:4007889)   #7880
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Couldn't WSR just ask BMW for support and offer the 3rd car to a factory driver?
They could ask.......
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 09:29 (Ref:4007921)   #7881
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The question is, which factory drivers are available?
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 10:11 (Ref:4007945)   #7882
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The question is, which factory drivers are available?
Andrew Jordan was hailed as a factory driver who's available.........
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 10:46 (Ref:4007949)   #7883
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Andrew Jordan was hailed as a factory driver who's available.........
According to an article he wrote on July 1st, he was offered the drive but he turned it down...

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/mo...ving-the-btcc/

I would assume that WSR/BMW were going to give him the drive without the sponsorship.
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 10:50 (Ref:4007950)   #7884
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Andrew Jordan was hailed as a factory driver who's available.........
Factory driver LOL! Might have driven passed the factory I suppose if that counts.
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 11:06 (Ref:4007952)   #7885
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Teams have been told that they can't have anyone at Croft who lives in Newcastle, Sunderland, Durham, Tyneside, Northumberland or Gateshead.
deliberate attempt to keep redline out of the porsche paddock? i’m sure loads of them live round there

we’re all from the midlands and south west so we should be ok for now.
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 11:16 (Ref:4007955)   #7886
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Factory driver LOL! Might have driven passed the factory I suppose if that counts.
His claim:
Andrew Jordan: ‘I’m a factory driver for BMW in the 2020 BTCC’
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/modern/2019/12/andrew-jordan-im-a-factory-driver-for-bmw-in-the-2020-btcc/
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 13:10 (Ref:4007988)   #7887
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According to an article he wrote on July 1st, he was offered the drive but he turned it down...

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/mo...ving-the-btcc/

I would assume that WSR/BMW were going to give him the drive without the sponsorship.
It's not "giving" the drive if you have to pay for it.
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 13:14 (Ref:4007992)   #7888
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It's not "giving" the drive if you have to pay for it.
Him saying "the offer to drive was still there" implies that even after his sponsors pulled out, WSR were prepared to let him race regardless.
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Old 2 Oct 2020, 13:18 (Ref:4007995)   #7889
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Are you sure? Used car values have risen due to supply issues, BMW Mini shut down their third shift and then restarted it 3 weeks later!
I'm seeing reduced volumes of components to most of the car plants; not all by any means, but a definite down tick.

Van production at Vauxhall Luton is busy beyond busy mind you.
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Old 4 Oct 2020, 18:58 (Ref:4008565)   #7890
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Fallen out?

https://twitter.com/AndrewJordan77/s...762950656?s=19
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It's well known that diplomacy and relationship with his team(s) isn't one of his strong points.
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 15:08 (Ref:4008695)   #7892
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Even though I like AJ he's made an idiot of himself posting this in my opinion... it seems like a desperate crave for attention.
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 17:55 (Ref:4008726)   #7894
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Even though I like AJ he's made an idiot of himself posting this in my opinion... it seems like a desperate crave for attention.
One of the reasons I don't like him. He posts like this all the time, and comes across as so arrogant. Not surprised they've 'fallen out' when he acts like that.
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One of the reasons I don't like him. He posts like this all the time, and comes across as so arrogant. Not surprised they've 'fallen out' when he acts like that.
It does seem strange.
A genuine falling out I would hope would be kept behind closed doors.
To me, this reads like an attempt to turn the focus back onto himself, but appears to carry a bit of desperation for acknowledgement.
If he had initiated a post himself, that was nostalgic towards former results it would be one thing, but to highlight a lack of a mention is something else.

If it was a genuine oversight, or a deliberate omission, I don't think bringining it to their attention in public will earn him any favours. A few comments have suggested he's carrying sour grapes.....
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Shame really, he’s a great driver and seems like a decent guy at times, but his attitude here won’t exactly help. He could have rephrased it better I guess
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Old 5 Oct 2020, 21:57 (Ref:4008755)   #7897
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Talented but acts like some diva.

If I had a choice of running Turks or AJ it would be a super easy choice to make.
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TPC announcement tomorrow at 8:00.

New car for next year? Or maybe Thompson or Gornall have parted ways.
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TPC announcement tomorrow at 8:00.

New car for next year? Or maybe Thompson or Gornall have parted ways.
They only signed a 2 year deal initially for BTCC, could be an announcement on their decision on the future.
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TPC announcement tomorrow at 8:00.

New car for next year? Or maybe Thompson or Gornall have parted ways.
Thompson has posted on Instagram that he is ready for Croft this weekend, so I think we can assume it's not about him.

Gornall's posts this year have made several references to mechanical issues, especially engine/gearbox. Wouldn't be surprised if he has had enough.
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