12 Hours of Sebring 2006 Race Thread - Page 2

jhansen · 15 Mar 2006, 15:52 (Ref:1549581)

It's there. They had the Porsche Cup timing up a while ago.

2112 · 15 Mar 2006, 15:54 (Ref:1549587)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielFR

no more live timing on the ALMS website

They are trying to get it fixed

TheNewBob · 15 Mar 2006, 17:18 (Ref:1549645)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

The Konrad livery is ugly: http://www.lmsr.net/images/at2.jpg

I thought that livery of theirs was years old!!

Surprised to see the entry numbers in the 30's - good grid but don't we normally see more than this at Sebring...?

Splendid Cat · 15 Mar 2006, 17:23 (Ref:1549652)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

The Konrad livery is ugly: http://www.lmsr.net/images/at2.jpg

This is Franz's "stock" livery. Even ran these colours on his 962 from time to time. Whether it's palatable or not, not sure. But it's traditional I guess

Splendid Cat · 15 Mar 2006, 17:24 (Ref:1549653)

Please ignore

arakis · 15 Mar 2006, 17:30 (Ref:1549656)

Hey could someone with access to DSC go and find the timeings for todays practice

**Bentley03** · 15 Mar 2006, 18:20 (Ref:1549687)

arakis,
it's surely better to keep things together so since we already have a perfectly good Sebring thread I've copied the times over to here from the thread you started:

Wednesday Morning Times

1 (1), No. 2 LMP1, Capello/Kristensen/McNish, 1:47.791 (123.572 mph), 25 laps, Audi R10/TDI Power.
2 (1), No. 6 LMP2, Maassen/Luhr/Collard 1:48.654 (122.591 mph), +0.863, 19 laps, Porsche RS Spyder.
3 (2), No. 1 LMP1, Biela/Pirro/Werner, 1:49.210 (121.967 mph), +1.419, 23 laps, Audi R10/TDI Power.
4 (3), No. 16 LMP1, Weaver/Leitzinger/Wallace, 1:49.530 (121.611 mph), +1.739, 24 laps, Lola B06/10/AER
5 (2) No. 7 LMP2, Bernhard/Dumas/Long, 1:49.599 (121.534 mph), +1.808, 25 laps, Porsche RS Spyder.
6 (4) No. 20 LMP1, Dyson/G.Smith, 1:49.692 (121.431 mph), +1.901, 17 laps, Lola B06/10/AER.
7 (3) No. 37 LMP2, C.Field/Halliday/J.Field, 1:50.350 (120.707 mph), +2.559, 20 laps, Lola B05 40/AER.
8 (5) No. 12 LMP1, Lewis/McMurry/Willman, 1:52.469 (118.433 mph), +4.678, 21 laps, Lola EX257/AER.
9 (4) No. 10 LMP2, Lally/Gue/A.Davis, 1:52.941 (117.938 mph), +5.150, 25 laps, Courage C65/AER.
10 (5) No. 41 LMP2, Binnie/Timpany/Sutherland, 1:54.375 (116.459 mph), +6.584, 8 laps, Lola B05/40/Zytek.
11 (6) No. 8 LMP2, Bach/Cosmo/Matos, 1:55.573 (115.252 mph), +7.782, 25 laps, Courage C65/Mazda.
12 (1) No. 4 LMGT1, Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen, 1:55.782 (115.044 mph), +7.991, 23 laps, Corvette C6.R.
13 (7) No. 33 LMP2, Barazi/Vergers/Julian, 1:56.148 (114.681 mph), +8.357, 2 laps, Courage C65/AER.
14 (2) No. 007 LMGT1, Enge/Kiesa/Turner, 1:56.509 (114.326 mph), +8.718, 23 laps, Aston Martin DBR9.
15 (3) No. 3 LMGT1, Fellows/O'Connell/Papis, 1:56.590 (114.247 mph), +8.799, 27 laps, Corvette C6.R.
16 (4) No. 009 LMGT1, Bright/Lamy/Sarrazin, 1:57.845 (113.030 mph), +10.054, 24 laps, Aston Martin DBR9.
17 (5) No. 25 LMGT1, Weickardt/Borcheller/TBA, 2:02.807 (108.463 mph), +15.016, 9 laps, Saleen S7R.
18 (1) No. 62 LMGT2, Kelleners/Melo/Lazzaro, 2:02.808 (108.462 mph), +15.017, 22 laps, Ferrari 430 GT Berllinetta.
19 (2) No. 51 LMGT2, Jeannette/Milner/Junqueira, 2:03.452 (107.896 mph), +15.661, 23 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM/Ford.
20 (3) No. 23 LMGT2, Rockenfeller/Graf/Rahal, 2:03.689 (107.689 mph), +15.898, 21 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
21 (6) No. 26 LMGT1, Ruberti/Babini/J.Davies, 2:03.811 (107.583 mph), +16.020, 13 laps, Saleen S7R.
22 (4) No. 21 LMGT2, Auberlen/Hand/James, 2:04.078 (107.352 mph), +16.287, 22 laps, BMW E46 M3.
23 (5) No. 31 LMGT2, J.Bergmeister/T.Bergmeister/Jonsson, 2:04.083 (107.348 mph), +16.292, 19 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
24 (6) No. 50 LMGT2, Maxwell/Brabham/Bourdais, 2:04.132 (107.305 mph), +16.341, 23 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM/Ford.
25 (7) No. 45 LMGT2, van Overbeek/Fogarty/Lieb, 2:04.558 (106.938 mph), +16.767, 22 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
26 (8) No. 78 LMGT2, Pumpelly/Thornton/Patterson, 2:04.812 (106.721 mph), +17.021, 18 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
27 (9) No. 44 LMGT2, Law/Neiman/Pechnik, 2:05.476 (106.156 mph), +17.685, 22 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
28 (10) No. 85 LMGT2, Kox/Crevels, 2:05.688 (105.977 mph), +17.897, 19 laps, Spyker C8 Spyder/Audi.
29 (11) No. 22 LMGT2, Marks/Sellers/Jensen, 2:06.052 (105.671 mph), +18.261, 22 laps, BMW E46 M3.
30 (12) No. 80 LMGT2, Tomlinson/Dean/Kimber-Smith, 2:06.140 (105.597 mph), +18.349, 21 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM.
31 (13) No. 55 LMGT2, Ehret/Nielsen/Farnbacher, 2:06.709 (105.123 mph), +18.918, 16 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
32 (14) No. 86 LMGT2, Bleekemolen/Hezemans, 2:07.337 (104.604 mph), +19.546, 17 laps, Spyker C8 Spyder/Audi.
33 (15) No. 56 LMGT2, Vonka/Casadei/McCormick, 2:33.839 (86.584 mph), +46.048, 2 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
34 (6) No. 9 LMP1, Dayton/Knoop/Fisken, no time, Lola EX257/AER.
35 (16) No. 79 LMGT2, Sugden/Matthews/Henzler, no time, Lola EX257/AER.

Bramzel · 15 Mar 2006, 20:03 (Ref:1549756)

Spykers Hans Rennes at LMSR.net; "the Spyders are just "playing around" so far,
they'll save the performance for when it counts."

Curious if it's just a big mouth or if they'll really surprise us in quali. Hoping the latter, but expecting the first. Please prove me wrong Hans

**Bentley03** · 15 Mar 2006, 20:10 (Ref:1549765)

I know it's early days and the times mean very little, but I'm hugely impressed by the Risi Ferrari's performance so far. If the car proves to be reliable and stays out of trouble, eddsc's prediction of a win on it's race debut could prove to be a good shout!

ss_collins · 15 Mar 2006, 21:32 (Ref:1549839)

that Porsche is soo fast

The Badger · 15 Mar 2006, 21:45 (Ref:1549848)

Im not at all surprised by Porsche ..... Grand masters of sportscars !!! Dead impressed with the F430 and a bit disapointed with Spyker ... Early days though . Cant wait for the race ...

gwyllion · 15 Mar 2006, 21:56 (Ref:1549855)

LMP2 victory will go to Porsche for sure, but GT2 is starting to more doubtfull (Ferrari and Panoz look extremely strong).

19000RPM · 15 Mar 2006, 23:02 (Ref:1549909)

does anyone remember what the lap record is? 1:48.0 from 2002? just curious...

-Jeremy

**Bentley03** · 15 Mar 2006, 23:19 (Ref:1549917)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19000RPM

does anyone remember what the lap record is? 1:48.0 from 2002? just curious...

-Jeremy

Frank Biela posted a 1:48.029 to take the pole in 2002. That time will be blitzed this year unless the weather does what it did last year.

prototype · 16 Mar 2006, 03:45 (Ref:1550005)

I know it is early, but it appears that the Konrad Saleen is way off the pace compared to the rest of GT1. When you look at pictures of it, I am surprised how different it looks from the Acemco Saleen (primarily the mirrors). According to Doug Fehan the Saleen should be one of the fastest out there. I am concerned that these cars are way under developed.

I also remember last year that Mazda said that their car was being developed on the track (unlike the Spyder). I am glad they race, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that the car has been developed at all since last season. Sure they have moved the intake half a dozen times, but the car cannot seem to get any performance gain. That Lola chassis cannot come soon enough!

It looks like it is going to be a GREAT weekend. Go Aston, and Go Ferrari!!!!

**Bentley03** · 16 Mar 2006, 08:24 (Ref:1550081)

Wednesday afternoon's results from the ALMS website:

1 (1) No. 1 LMP1, Biela/Pirro/Werner, 1:48.598 (122.654 mph), 19 laps, Audi R10/TDI Power.
2 (2) No. 16 LMP1, Weaver/Leitzinger/Wallace, 1:49.117 (122.071 mph), +0.519, 20 laps, Lola B06/10/AER
3 (3) No. 2 LMP1, Capello/Kristensen/McNish, 1:49.153 (122.031 mph), +0.555, 20 laps, Audi R10/TDI Power.
4 (4) No. 20 LMP1, Dyson/G.Smith, 1:49.415 (121.738 mph), +0.817, 14 laps, Lola B06/10/AER.
5 (1) No. 37 LMP2, C.Field/Halliday/J.Field, 1:49.732 (121.387 mph), +1.134, 20 laps, Lola B05 40/AER.
6 (2) No. 7 LMP2, Bernhard/Dumas/Long, 1:51.293 (119.684 mph), +2.695, 11 laps, Porsche RS Spyder.
7 (5) No. 9 LMP1, Dayton/Knoop/Fisken, 1:51.974 (118.956 mph), +3.376, 12 laps, Lola EX257/AER.
8 (3) No. 33 LMP2, Barazi/Vergers/Julian, 1:53.865 (116.981 mph), +5.267, 18 laps, Courage C65/AER.
9 (4) No. 41 LMP2, Binnie/Timpany/Sutherland, 1:56.306 (114.525 mph), +7.708, 15 laps, Lola B05 40/Zytek.
10 (1) No. 3 LMGT1, Fellows/O'Connell/Papis, 1:56.636 (114.201 mph), +8.038, 17 laps, Corvette C6.R.
11 (2) No. 4 LMGT1, Gavin/Beretta/Magnussen, 1:56.853 (113.989 mph), +8.255, 19 laps, Corvette C6.R.
12 (3) No. 007 LMGT1, Enge/Kiesa/Turner, 1:57.300 (113.555 mph), +8.702, 21 laps, Aston Martin DBR9.
13 (4) No. 009 LMGT1, Bright/Lamy/Sarrazin, 1:57.513 (113.349 mph), +8.915, 22 laps, Aston Martin DBR9.
14 (5) No. 8 LMP2, Bach/Cosmo/Matos, 1:58.282 (112.612 mph), +9.684, 18 laps, Courage C65/Mazda.
15 (5) No. 26 LMGT1, Ruberti/Babini/J.Davies, 2:03.092 (108.212 mph), +14.494, 12 laps, Saleen S7R.
16 (1) No. 50 LMGT2, Maxwell/Brabham/Bourdais, 2:03.299 (108.030 mph), +14.701, 15 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM/Ford.
17 (2) No. 51 LMGT2, Jeannette/Milner/Janqueira, 2:03.706 (107.675), +15.108, 17 laps, Panoz Esperante GTLM/Ford.
18 (3) No. 62 LMGT2, Kelleners/Melo/Lazzaro, 2:04.166 (107.276 mph), +15.568, 17 laps, Ferrari 430 GT Berllinetta.
19 (6) No. 25 LMGT1, Weickardt/ Borcheller/TBA, 2:04.200 (107.246 mph), +15.602, 12 laps, Saleen S7R.
20 (4) No. 21 LMGT2, Auberlen/Hand/James, 2:04.635 (106.872 mph), +16.037, 17 laps, BMW E46 M3.
21 (5) No. 45 LMGT2, van Overbeek/Fogarty/Lieb, 2:05.434 (106.191 mph), +16.836, 21 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
22 (6) No. 86 LMGT2, Bleekemolen/Hezemans, 2:05.755 (105.920 mph), +17.157, 16 laps, Spyker C8 Spyder/Audi.
23 (7) No. 22 LMGT2, Marks/Sellers/Jensen, 2:06.216 (105.533 mph), +17.618, 18 laps, BMW E46 M3.
24 (8) No. 23 LMGT2, Rockenfeller/Graf/Rahal, 2:06.303 (105.461 mph), +17.705, 5 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
25 (9) No. 85 LMGT2, Kox/Crevels, 2:06.539 (105.264 mph), +17.941, 14 laps, Spyker C8 Spyder/Audi.
26 (10) No. 31 LMGT2, J.Bergmeister/T.Bergmeister/Jonsson, 2:06.713 (105.119 mph), +18.115, 17 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
27 (11) No. 55 LMGT2, Ehret/Nielsen/Farnbacher, 2:07.824 (104.206 mph), +19.226,18 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
28 (12) No. 78 LMGT2, Pumpelly/Thornton/Patterson, 2:09.318 (103.002 mph), +20.720 19 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
29 (13) No. 56 LMGT2, Vonka/Casadei/McCormick, 2:19.743 (95.318 mph), +31.145, 16 laps, Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
30 (6) No. 12 LMP1, Lewis/McMurry/Willman, 4:38.786 (47.779 mph), +2:50.188 5 laps, Lola EX257/AER.

31 (6) No. 6 LMP2, Maassen/Luhr/Collard, no time, Porsche RS Spyder.
32 (7) No. 10 LMP2, Lally/Gue/A.Davis, no time, Courage C65/AER.
33 (14) No. 44 LMGT2, Law/Neiman/Pechnik, no time, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
34 (15) No. 79 LMGT2, Sugden/Matthews/Henzler, no time, Porsche 911 GT3 RSR.
35 (16) No. 80 LMGT2, Tomlinson/Dean/Kimber-Smith, Panoz Esperante GTLM.

Fastest Drivers

P1: Frank Biela
P2: Clint Field
GT1: Max Papis
GT2: Sebastien Bourdais

RobertPrange · 16 Mar 2006, 13:46 (Ref:1550238)

Quote:

Originally Posted by prototype

When you look at pictures of it, I am surprised how different it looks from the Acemco Saleen (primarily the mirrors).

Konrad uses Porsche 993 mirrors because those can be electric operated from the cockpit.

Bramzel · 16 Mar 2006, 14:58 (Ref:1550264)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertPrange

Konrad uses Porsche 993 mirrors because those can be electric operated from the cockpit.

Actually Acemco has used those as well in the past.

Martin Haven · 16 Mar 2006, 15:32 (Ref:1550288)

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebear

I am also `grinding my teeth' due to a 19.4 kb/s dial-up connection. They must use `wet string'.

last time I was covering the race, I stayed in the new hotel at the track... WHEN you could get a connection, it was in SINGLE digits !!! Incredible when every Days Inn or Motel 6 in the whole of Georgia offers free wireless broadband...

The media centre has full-on broadband - if you can work out a way to sneak in, just pick up a cable on a desk and plug in...

And try to enjoy the sunshine too... it's flippin freezing in Europe...

Martin Haven · 16 Mar 2006, 15:35 (Ref:1550292)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Hey - Why be conventional!

too true... insanity has certain plus-points...

Martin Haven · 16 Mar 2006, 15:39 (Ref:1550298)

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebear

Here is the latest from the Sebring Motel room (dial-up speed is now up to a blazing 21.6 kb/s).

Much has been said about how quiet the Audi R-10 diesel engine is. I can confirm that. Although it is not a Rolls Royce, when passing under the starter's stand at top speed one can hear the "plopity-plopity-plopity" of the tires as they go over the multitude of expansion joints in Sebring's concrete.

Another item of interest to some: Dyson's #16 AND #20 each passed copious quantities of what appeared to be OIL SMOKE when starting up.

Let me see if I have this correct... Dyson's purpose-built racing engine belches clouds of white smoke on start-up... isn't that the normal modus opperandi of a diesel???? Are we all sure this isn't some huge Rob Dyson/Wolfgang Ulrich practical joke ??? Have the boys from upstate New York got the oil-burner, while the R10s are on extra-long electric cables???

Martin Haven · 16 Mar 2006, 15:41 (Ref:1550300)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Haven

Let me see if I have this correct... Dyson's purpose-built racing engine belches clouds of white smoke on start-up... isn't that the normal modus opperandi of a diesel???? Are we all sure this isn't some huge Rob Dyson/Wolfgang Ulrich practical joke ??? Have the boys from upstate New York got the oil-burner, while the R10s are on extra-long electric cables???

for those not in Europe / UK, Dyson is also the name of high-tech vacuum cleaners... some technology swapping between Swindon and Ingolstadt... then again...

Martin Haven · 16 Mar 2006, 15:44 (Ref:1550302)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

The Konrad livery is ugly: http://www.lmsr.net/images/at2.jpg

What's the German for "plus ca change???"

white and that nice Aqua is what Franz used to use - I always thought it was best... of course, it is also notably sponsor-free, so.... if someone else wants to cough up some readies, I guess they can dictate some colours

**Bentley03** · 16 Mar 2006, 16:03 (Ref:1550311)

Thursday morning practice complete:

Top Four
2 Audi R10 1:48.016 19 laps
6 RS Spyder 1:49.170 20 laps
7 RS Spyder 1:49.419 20 laps
1 Audi R10 1:49.511 10 laps

The number 20 Dyson was 5th fastest in 1:50.994 and the number 16 only completed 2 laps. Does anyone know what the problem was with the 16?

gwyllion · 16 Mar 2006, 16:11 (Ref:1550317)

GT1 times:
009 Aston Martin 1:55.918 22 laps
007 Aston Martin 1:56.681 24 laps
3 Corvette 1:57.587 26 laps
4 Corvette 1:57.621 25 laps
26 Saleen 1:59.936 15 laps
25 Saleen 2:02.985 16 laps

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