LMS Rnd 3: Nurburgring 1000km 29 Jun-1 Jul 2007 - Page 4

I love 04s · 30 Jun 2007, 18:09 (Ref:1950706)

As I said, this IS HEARSAY and nothing is certain until something official is released. About Le Mans though......very surprising if the rumours are true and they have been running this restrictor all season......I cannot imagine it being overlooked there..

jaysalv · 30 Jun 2007, 18:14 (Ref:1950711)

if it was missed at leman then its down to the scrutineers . they clearly aint doing there job properly

The359 · 30 Jun 2007, 19:11 (Ref:1950741)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Ice Pol Racing Team is running a GPC 430.

It's just the name and the money that is Ice Pol...rest is GPC

So GPC has three Ferraris running now?

Marky · 30 Jun 2007, 19:49 (Ref:1950779)

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Originally Posted by jaysalv

if it was missed at leman then its down to the scrutineers . they clearly aint doing there job properly

rekcon they scrutts have mucked it up as they have stall check at every scruting. And there very tough at Lemans so i cant belive that no one has relised this its not that hard to check it.

jaysalv · 30 Jun 2007, 20:45 (Ref:1950835)

any news on charouz yet anyone?

cmk · 30 Jun 2007, 23:53 (Ref:1950913)

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Originally Posted by The359

So GPC has three Ferraris running now?

In the LMS, yes. I wager they have more than 3 chassis total though. Wonder how many 430s have passed through their hands over the last two years?

russ250575 · 1 Jul 2007, 09:46 (Ref:1951029)

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Originally Posted by jaysalv

any news on charouz yet anyone?

Not sure on the relation to the above rumour but they have been moved to the back of the grid today

RobertPrange · 1 Jul 2007, 09:49 (Ref:1951032)

We will have our usual live race ticker which can be found here

The Charouz Lola starts from the back of the grid due to not passing the stall-test.

I love 04s · 1 Jul 2007, 10:39 (Ref:1951079)

Something has to be done about the Pugs.....what a complete JOKE this is.....they have almost lapped every car below the top 5 and its not even 1 hour gone!

Lusitano · 1 Jul 2007, 11:03 (Ref:1951090)

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Originally Posted by I love 04s

Something has to be done about the Pugs.....what a complete JOKE this is.....they have almost lapped every car below the top 5 and its not even 1 hour gone!

Why not do something to every other car instead?

Francesco · 1 Jul 2007, 11:18 (Ref:1951109)

because it cost less to change 2 "over-powered" cars than 10 privateer cars

Lusitano · 1 Jul 2007, 11:35 (Ref:1951124)

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Originally Posted by Francesco

because it cost less to change 2 "over-powered" cars than 10 privateer cars

hmmmm.... That never crossed my mind.

**FIRE** · 1 Jul 2007, 11:39 (Ref:1951128)

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Originally Posted by I love 04s

Something has to be done about the Pugs.....what a complete JOKE this is.....they have almost lapped every car below the top 5 and its not even 1 hour gone!

Replace Pugs by diesel cars.

ger80 · 1 Jul 2007, 13:21 (Ref:1951283)

Great performance from Norbert Siedler in the Kruse LMP2 Pescarolo ...

Speed-King · 1 Jul 2007, 13:23 (Ref:1951285)

Just looked through the gallery from Saturday at the-paddock:
Did those super-brains really REMOVE the position lights from the cars?

**FIRE** · 1 Jul 2007, 13:57 (Ref:1951339)

yes

mgrs · 1 Jul 2007, 15:33 (Ref:1951451)

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Originally Posted by I love 04s

Hear say from Nurburgring is that the Charouz Lola is in the process of being seriously told off by the ACO.

After qualy, the car was taken to Parc Ferme where it was checked for legality....not only did the car fail when stall tested (restrictor blocked to ensure no air coming from anywhere else), the restrictor was then found to be oversize...!!! Accordingly things were checked and it was found that they have been running the same oversize restrictor ALL season!!!!!! God knows what is going to happen now but it all sounds VERY serious....talk of all points being removed etc.......!! Perhaps it could explain their pace!!!!!

THIS IS NOT TRUE, THEY FAILED A STALL TEST. THEIR RESTRICTORS ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL, JUST A POSSIBLE LEAK IN THE AIRBOX. NOT THE REASON FOR THEIR SPEED, THATS DOWN TO THE TOP JOB BEING DONE BY ENGINEER AND THE LADS FROM JOTA.

More annoyingly is the ACO's desision to pull them up for missing a legality box (Required bodywork at the rear of the car) but not other teams for similar issues, Creation, only one rear light and no Legality Boxes, they have both fallen off????

dj4monie · 1 Jul 2007, 15:59 (Ref:1951480)

I am somewhat tired of all the talk on both sides of the Atlantic....

People don't want Pugs to dominate, ummm they spend more money, why not?

Why not give Audi some appearance money and let the younger drivers use it in the LMS series? Oh wait, they don't have the money or want to give appearance fees to teams that don't really need it.

This year's best LMP1 race was at Le Mans, oh well get over it.

Even if they change the rules again, Pug will either pull up tent or make enough changes to at least give them an advantage.

Would endurance racing be better off without the factory involvement? Only slightly...

Congrats to Saleen for another victory in the LMS, maybe they can lock up the championship soon enough to come State side...

jaysalv · 1 Jul 2007, 16:35 (Ref:1951512)

i agree but hey charouz came from back off grid to finish 4th ahead of creation so justice was done at the end

Chewie-1990 · 1 Jul 2007, 20:45 (Ref:1951802)

Seems its just me talking to myself about this, and Im sure most of you know this already but just in case, the explanation for the Swiss Spirit teams absence is that the program has been suspended:

http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...=2893&Itemid=2

canam · 2 Jul 2007, 11:00 (Ref:1952173)

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Originally Posted by jaysalv

i agree but hey charouz came from back off grid to finish 4th ahead of creation so justice was done at the end

That was a penalty for failing the stall test at this round.

What should be done about having the wrong restrictor (for the season and LM)--if that proves to be the case? I would have thought these would have been checked carefully but apparently not--until it was picked up at the Ring.

Points, penalties, fines ?? It would be shame but other teams would have suffered if they have had the wrong restrictor all year. Also, did they have the correct restrictor cone on hand to put back into the car for the race at the Ring? If so, Hmmmm.

jaysalv · 2 Jul 2007, 11:17 (Ref:1952183)

it is now from my understanding that it was not the restrictor it failed on but a air leak from the air box that failed to stall the car . the restrictor was the corect size but hey even though they were rightly punished for it and well done for picking it up at scrutineering how amazing was it to come from the back o9f the grid to finish 4th just shows how quick they are maybe could have nicked 3rd place if started from there original position ... well done jota and there drivers

canam · 2 Jul 2007, 11:29 (Ref:1952197)

I don't think that is entirely correct. There has been hushed talk about the restrictor being that applied to a 5 litre unit (not a 5.5l unit). Charouz should confirm the position. If they ran the correct restrictor throughout the year, there is no harm in confirming it, is there? In fact, it would clarify the position. I presume all other teams would be willing to make the same verfication given the circustances.

jaysalv · 2 Jul 2007, 11:46 (Ref:1952213)

i think a call to sam hignett is needed will get the correct answer then will update asap

canam · 2 Jul 2007, 11:50 (Ref:1952219)

according to enurance-info, they spoke to Poisennot pre-grid and he indicated that the restrictor diameters did not comply. Apparently there was some confusion over the sizes for 5l and 5.5l motors by the team (???).

It would be good to clarify and get it out in the open.

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