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It's the downforce that also allowed the higher top speeds of the Pug on the Mulsanne Straight, because on a low downforce setup like that at LM, the boost in terms of speed made a radical difference from the R10. And as the statistics show, they still had more downforce than the Audi. |
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Our we going to see the results of the prediction competition posted?
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Which is a shame because Eurosport didn't run not nearly as many.... I am glad I was able to once again watch it via the internet, had to switch pages in between as coverage moved between Eurosport (the mothership) and Euro2. For those of you watching video on the internet on 19" monitors - HD coverage was superb (via the internet) I knew Ferrari would win it, I knew Risi would win it and I knew MELO wouldn't crash the car, so those of you can now EAT a large CROW BURGER with Onions and (I said alot more thought better of it).... Bruni put in a monster stint in the night and sealed it from Virgo, they had no chance. Nice to see Virgo get on the podium and BMS get on the podium as well. Ferrari dominated and AF Corse despite a slow start was picking up the pace, as Vilander is very good in the rain, too bad they broke a driveshaft. Now let's take this momentum and smoke them at Arida and Lime Rock in a few weeks time. I also knew if it lasted the Van Merksteijn Porsche wouldn't be beaten, almost a 100% error free race and you know for Jos it might just be setting in, he's won the biggest race of his career and proved he still very, very quick, his qualifying time was on the tail end of the P1 cars. What the hell happen with Porsche in GT2 though??? My goodness it could haven't come at a worst time and even the last Porsche ran into driveline problems and that sealed the all Ferrari finish in GT2. I was also happy to see the DOME do well and yes Toyota should hand them the contract to build the new hybrid electric car closed car based on this one... This was Pugs race to loose and they managed to loose it with bungled calls by the management and mistakes by the drivers, though none too bad to prevent them from wining. They may just win the WAR (LMS) but lost the biggest battle this year and I think it will be a tall task to beat them next season. Only Audi and another OEM has the technology and might to even come close. Though the DOME and Aston/Lola showed well enough that there might just be some hope for those on a shoestring budget. Well Done Aston Martin! GM Racing should be really upset now.... That's 3 wins by Prodrive in 5 years.. Not bad. I think those cars will be mothballed and you will only see them at Goodwood from now on, the end of an era - GT1 Next year I will be at Le Mans, maybe it won't rain.... |
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Hi Ayse ..... did you have a good time , stupid question . The weather was ok by me , just a little rain .
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PM sent - before I read your post, funnily enough......
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I'm too lazy to check - (assuming the info is out there) ....can anyone provide a rough list of the Pug drivers in pace order?
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DJ, Virgo did not get a podium in GT2 - the engine died at something like hour 19 or hour 20. BMS was 2nd, Farnbacher 3rd (so still each of Michelin, Pirelli and Dunlop on the podium).
I think Peugeot lost their best shot for a meaningful win. If Audi comes back with a new car (as we know they won't return with the R10) then they should have produced a better car than the 908 by this stage. If they don't, well, the Peugeot win will have even less clout than those works Audi wins, cause in the height of the R8 era there was never such a dramatic pace disparity between works and privateers. |
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Than a car already developed for 2-3 years?
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Audi now has a previous diesel P1 under its belt and a 2-year jump on the 908 in terms of technology and observation. And yes, they are Audi. They know better than Peugeot what it takes to win Le Mans in this era, and they will doubtless come up with a car that is driver and mechanic-friendly, tough and easily repairable. Furthermore, given that the R10 is a reasonably competitive proposition already, do we have any reason whatsoever to think that if Audi sits down with a clean sheet (and interviews before LM suggests it will be a clean-sheet proto if they go the P1 route), that they won't make a car significantly better than the R10? If they do that, well, they are almost by definition building a car which is better than the 908, at least by a small amount. |
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A lot of logic, I'll give you that, but a lot of supposition too. I guess it's the now very stroing desire in me to see Audi toppled. The saving grace this year at Le Mans was that they really had to work for it. I don't want them arriving with advantages.....
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In my naivety, I'm still struggling with this. This presupposes that every new car is automatically at least as good as it's predecessor. Are we happy that this is always the case - or again, are we happy with this because it's Audi.....? |
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