IMSA: 2020 - Page 30

**joeb** · 25 Aug 2020, 21:00 (Ref:3997941)

Apparently IMSA has put out some feelers on including P3 in the main series next year. The goal is obviously to boost grid numbers, but in an article on 365 a team owner brings up some good points on the subject. Namely, the people running in the P3 series now are out there to have fun, many are older, and having to step up to multiclass pro series would be a step to far.

broadrun96 · 25 Aug 2020, 22:02 (Ref:3997949)

I think it's a non starter consideration for a couple reasons.

LMP3 lap times aren't much different than GTLM so we're back to the PC problems again.

LMP2 teams could face drivers wanting to run a LMP3 car instead IF costs are lower. The cars are cheaper but 1.5 million a season for LMP2 I've seen listed a could times wouldn't likely be much cheaper for a LMP3. The cars are cheaper but the running costs aren't built for the hours of IMSA LMP2 season program. Think they run about 15 hours of racing in LMP3 vs 37 in LMP2. The LMP3s are supposed to be able to run all season without a rebuild I think

That said, I like the LMP3 cars more than the Oreca P2. But it still takes me a moment at the track to tell the difference between Ligier and Norma(Duqueine now I guess) and I haven't seen a Ginetta that I remember. And thank god that terrible Adess is gone with that nose.

Deleted · 27 Aug 2020, 19:51 (Ref:3998387)

IPC is the only IMSA series I remain to care about, so don't destroy it please. But I don't see why they can't integrate LMP3 into selected main series events only and don't even make it into a championship but just guest entries for race wins... like Daytona/Sebring/PLM -only deal...

Mike Hedlund · 29 Aug 2020, 17:19 (Ref:3998768)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

IPC is the only IMSA series I remain to care about, so don't destroy it please. But I don't see why they can't integrate LMP3 into selected main series events only and don't even make it into a championship but just guest entries for race wins... like Daytona/Sebring/PLM -only deal...

Because most of the drivers aren't experienced enough AND don't want to do that level of racing.

-mike

Deleted · 29 Aug 2020, 18:01 (Ref:3998773)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

Because most of the drivers aren't experienced enough AND don't want to do that level of racing.

-mike

Umm... yes, but if they don't want and/or can't to do it, then they just... don't do it you know. I don't understand this argument. You can establish a non-championship LMP3 class at those 3 events (or wherever) and make it voluntary to join or not to join. You're not replacing IPC with it - in this scheme of my - but just making a supplementary addition. If it would be a 3 car class at Sebring then it would be a 3 car class. Or 2 car class. Or 8 car class. Or 0 cars and then there just wouldn't be a class. If it would overfill the rest of the grid somewhere (which it won't with the current depleted fields, but let's pretend it did) then you can utilize pre-qualifying procedures similar to the one used for GTC in 2011 PLM

broadrun96 · 3 Sep 2020, 15:07 (Ref:3999836)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

Umm... yes, but if they don't want and/or can't to do it, then they just... don't do it you know. I don't understand this argument. You can establish a non-championship LMP3 class at those 3 events (or wherever) and make it voluntary to join or not to join. You're not replacing IPC with it - in this scheme of my - but just making a supplementary addition. If it would be a 3 car class at Sebring then it would be a 3 car class. Or 2 car class. Or 8 car class. Or 0 cars and then there just wouldn't be a class. If it would overfill the rest of the grid somewhere (which it won't with the current depleted fields, but let's pretend it did) then you can utilize pre-qualifying procedures similar to the one used for GTC in 2011 PLM

Well the cars aren't built to be used that way so you would require someone who purchased the chassis to modify it for possibly a race that could be cancelled or have just you in it? To what end though? They have their own races, often full of decent action at the start before the drivers naturally start to separate themselves and gaps open up. It's interesting where it is and isn't getting grids so full they need to turn away entrants. If racing is intent on increasing the fields adding costs is not the way to do it. It just feels like wanting to add something that honestly none of the participants have any interest in, they like their series and will move up if they desire but they'll move up to P2.

belt driven · 3 Sep 2020, 17:32 (Ref:3999876)

Thank you, IMSA, for helping me celebrate my 50th anniversary year of attending road races with a sensible weekend schedule. The first Petit ran a couple of short races and a 3 hour IMSA Firehawk race on Sunday. I've never understood why PLM takes 3 days to run a handful of 30-45 minute support races and a Pilot(Continental) challenge race leaving Sunday empty.

broadrun96 · 3 Sep 2020, 19:00 (Ref:3999893)

Quote:

Originally Posted by belt driven

Thank you, IMSA, for helping me celebrate my 50th anniversary year of attending road races with a sensible weekend schedule. The first Petit ran a couple of short races and a 3 hour IMSA Firehawk race on Sunday. I've never understood why PLM takes 3 days to run a handful of 30-45 minute support races and a Pilot(Continental) challenge race leaving Sunday empty.

Because the 2 hour nap at 10 sucks. But I do appreciate they're starting the day with Lamborghini to make sure everyone is up for church. But having Sunday to wake, make coffee, pack after the the sun dried everything is kinda nice.

broadrun96 · 3 Sep 2020, 22:30 (Ref:3999934)

Sounds like Dagys thinks MSR is the leader for the Acura DPi for one car so far with others possible. Sounds like we'd see Taylor and Cameron in the car since they are both signed to HPD not Penske. Guessing it's not a fully funded program now with 2 cars not set to announce.

Wonder that that would mean for the NSX program but could see it continue as before since they would be at the same rounds without having to split the team up much, only the GT only and GTD sprint rounds.

Sounds like 2021 schedule was set to be announced this weekend but pushed back to Wed according to notebook.

https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/r...ay-notebook-7/

broadrun96 · 5 Sep 2020, 02:25 (Ref:4000148)

There's a race this weekend but feels like an afterthought. Qualifying ended with GTLM and DPi with tiny gaps in the top 5. #7 on pole, 911 in GTLM but top 5 within a tenth, .086 to be precise. Turn 2 is SLICK, watch for cars taking too much curb tomorrow.

broadrun96 · 5 Sep 2020, 14:12 (Ref:4000257)

Early morning Porsche action is showing Turn 3 is slick today, most everyone pushing it is coming through at about 15 degrees from straight.

Did not see a morning warm-up but it was 20 degrees cooler than quali was at 8 am. 80 degrees at 10 am to a high of 85 today but full sun and clear skies

Early incidents so far this morning have been off driver's right out of 5 and across the track. Makay Snow in Lamborghini and a driver in to the wall and across the track in Porsche. Too much curb use from both it sounds. And DPis were doing the same in qualifying so we'll see how that goes.

TWRv12 · 5 Sep 2020, 16:02 (Ref:4000276)

Start was nuts
https://twitter.com/IMSA/status/1302271934206562305

race live
http://www.radiolemans.co/imsa-live-video-stream/

#31 (F. NASR) - drive thru - for start incident

#7 Helio - drive thru - pitlane limit
then
#7 Helio - drive thru - RUNNING THE LIGHT AT PIT EXIT - STOP + 60

#912 - VANTHOOR - RUN OVER HOSE,TOOL,PART,PERSON IN OWN OR OTHER PIT BOX - DRIVE THROUGH

broadrun96 · 5 Sep 2020, 16:10 (Ref:4000278)

And now stop plus 60 as well, blew the red at pit out

broadrun96 · 5 Sep 2020, 16:17 (Ref:4000279)

The word of the day is penalty

seanyb505 · 5 Sep 2020, 16:18 (Ref:4000280)

Shame we can't keep gtlm more subscribed. Nice close train of cars.

Maelochs · 5 Sep 2020, 16:22 (Ref:4000282)

I missed the start, and all that fun .... got back just as the #31 was heading to pay for a penalty, had to take care of business ... . got back a yellow flag had put the #31 back into contention and Castroneves well back ...... now that I can watch the race steadily, I guess all the excitement will end...

GTLM is once again presenting the kind of racing which once made it the most popular class .... it still is among fans, I'd wager, but not for manufacturers ....

TWRv12 · 5 Sep 2020, 19:55 (Ref:4000300)

CAR 31 DERANI: PENALTY - INCIDENT RESPONSIBILTY WITH 44 PUMPELLY - DRIVE THROUGH

Huge hit for Spencer at T4.

Pipo was running 2nd

broadrun96 · 5 Sep 2020, 20:00 (Ref:4000302)

He definitely dove in to the Esses coming past me and passed anothet GTD in to them. Was brave and crazy at best.

Second drive through for them today for contact.

The 77 has TAKEN OFF in front of the Acuras

TheMightyM · 5 Sep 2020, 20:01 (Ref:4000303)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWRv12

CAR 31 DERANI: PENALTY - INCIDENT RESPONSIBILTY WITH 44 PUMPELLY - DRIVE THROUGH

Huge hit for Spencer at T4.

Pipo was running 2nd

Deserved penalty.

TWRv12 · 5 Sep 2020, 20:14 (Ref:4000304)

#77 unscheduled stop

broadrun96 · 5 Sep 2020, 20:18 (Ref:4000305)

LMP2s getting close to DPi pace, multiple laps in the low 1:11s and 1:10s from both cars without traffic.

77 caught the Mazda bug. Was crushing the field but sounds like they're done. Haven't seen them by again.

TheMightyM · 5 Sep 2020, 20:18 (Ref:4000306)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWRv12

#77 unscheduled stop

Brakes.

TWRv12 · 5 Sep 2020, 20:24 (Ref:4000309)

Penske lucky to be 1-2

TWRv12 · 5 Sep 2020, 20:25 (Ref:4000310)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWRv12

CAR 31 DERANI: PENALTY - INCIDENT RESPONSIBILTY WITH 44 PUMPELLY - DRIVE THROUGH

Huge hit for Spencer at T4.

Pipo was running 2nd

https://twitter.com/IMSA/status/1302333515573362695

TWRv12 · 5 Sep 2020, 20:35 (Ref:4000313)

#77 back out, 16 laps down

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