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As MyNameIsNigel suggested, this is news which really deserves its own thread.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112085 Quote:
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10 Jan 2014, 14:26 (Ref:3352430) | #2 | ||
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Thanks for opening this new thread.
Let's now hope the company's board of directors will stick to this plan. |
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Does that not refer to the ZEOD's powerplant??
This is great news though, although the part about the board of directors worries me slightly, as to me it sounds as if the program isn't signed off yet. |
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10 Jan 2014, 14:37 (Ref:3352434) | #4 | |
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It's interesting because, again, this isn't a nailed on confirmation.
Everything looks to be going in the right direction - but Cox seems to imply it hasn't been agreed at board level? Hopefully they'll be in a position to announce something officially soon as a company. |
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This would be very odd things to be coming out with if not. |
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10 Jan 2014, 14:59 (Ref:3352442) | #6 | |
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Internal company politics---different divisions with different VPs having different views and visions of and for the company. One faction tries to force the hand of another by presenting a fait accompli--"We have already invested X time and money, we would be better off following through and gaining the benefits than cutting our losses."
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I call BS.
"It had previously stated that it was working on concepts for an LMP1 programme, which is a condition of its 2014 'Garage 56' Le Mans 24 Hours entry" With that statement in mind, how can they say anything other than 'Yes, we are working on P1 for 2015...." My guess is that they will show up with the ZEOD this year, have lacklustre performance - proclaim it as a great success and 'the future' and disappear again. Please prove me wrong Nissan. PLEASE. |
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Well, I haven't got a clue, but considering the lead time required to mount a credible campaign, getting the ball rolling with verbal authorisation while the board dots the i's and crosses the t's must be a good idea. You can do lots of planning without spending huge amounts of money.
Come on Nissan! Japan vs Germany! |
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I suspect Nissan's 2015 budget will only be officially signed off much later in 2014, much like every other large company. Thus, Cox probably has the budget to do Garage 56, the LMP2 engine, Race Academy, and design/prep work for an LMP1, but no authority to commit to actually racing anything in 2015.
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10 Jan 2014, 19:32 (Ref:3352552) | #12 | |
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Committed but not really committed = yet another contradictory, nonsensical statement.
Read that before coming here, but the thread title is still misleading if new thread was needed in the first place. |
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10 Jan 2014, 19:36 (Ref:3352556) | #13 | |
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Hey, what happened to you? I was missing you these last few days, you disappeared and I was wondering what would deggis say, now that finally the collective has decided there is going to be an LMP1.
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10 Jan 2014, 20:16 (Ref:3352571) | #14 | |
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Apparently all it took was a major journo to write a wishful headline which is not that connected to what Cox actually said. Pretty disappointed at the "collective".
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Oh man, I am trying so hard to help you quite while you are ahead, but you just want to hit that wall at full speed, like it is fun!
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10 Jan 2014, 21:16 (Ref:3352593) | #16 | |
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This smells like tactics to appease the ACO since they put their foot down and said no G56 without LMP1 in 2015.
Would I be surprised to see Nissan bring the Zeod, milk it for PR and then announce that the board is sadly not allowing LMP1 to happen? Not at all.. This whole thing is turning into a complete farce. I have never seen a manufacturer be this indecisive about joining a racing series. It's absurd. |
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10 Jan 2014, 21:22 (Ref:3352595) | #17 | |
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It's just because, as has been mentioned on here before, a normally private process is playing out in public.
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10 Jan 2014, 22:06 (Ref:3352608) | #18 | |
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Nissan wants to win LeMans outright. They cant do that with the zeod. I dont know what it would take besides a car on track to convince some here they are coming back.
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10 Jan 2014, 22:20 (Ref:3352613) | #19 | |
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An official announcement (read: press release, not something Cox blurbs alone) mentioning what and when.
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10 Jan 2014, 22:32 (Ref:3352622) | #20 | |
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Read #10.... then wait patiently.
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But we want it now!
We demand it now! Don't Nissan know who they're messin' with here???? |
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11 Jan 2014, 00:45 (Ref:3352661) | #24 | |
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And then what happens? Are we all going to buy a Versa and put a "P1" sticker on it?
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