Le Mans Series 2010

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by LeManske

where does this leave the likes of ProSpeed, Trackspeed, BMS, ...?

Prospeed plan to stay in FIA GT2, Trackspeed only have the Spa 24 hrs in there 2010 FIA GT2 plans.

[arakis]

yeah Ratel prity much killed the series with the most potential in Europe, the GT2. I mean Corvette could have come over , BMW, Ferrari Porsceh,Aston,Jag, ford, ..... and they were all happy with the rules....... now why would someone decide to change the rules at the peek interest for the championship and make all the other teams run away.......

I see the ACO smiling, countng their money, and going "ahh the young grasshoper"

[Graham Goodwin]

Stephane is a shareholder in LMS

[HORNDAWG]

Which really, to me, is a problem. Seems a major conflict of interest! Unless the ACO wishes to not have GTs in the LMS, or for that matter, an LMS.







L.P.

[Graham Goodwin]

It certainly hasn't been a problem thus far - and he's been a shareholder from the start.

The reality is that the competitors get to choose - it's their money - Hence the CRS decisions this year

[HORNDAWG]

So you think that Ratel had no influence on the obsolesence of GT-1 to introduce his WC GT-1? I find it way to convenient of a coincidence. Also the inclusion of the new WCGT-1 at Le Mans seems rather supportive of it vs. the wish of the mfgs. that build GTs which run in the ACO's sanctioned/guided races!

There is a line from Shakespeare that covers it quite well, having to do with Denmark and rot, IMO.






L.P.

[Jamesy-18]

Has anyone got a list of the teams racing in GT1 and GT2 up to now? I can't find any list of the rumours/confirmed anywhere!

[Graham Goodwin]

Ask the teams that were running 'old rules' GT1s how sustainable they were finding the economics of the class - Entry levels in LMS were never all that impressive despite the draw of LM24 entry potential

GT1 was out of time, out of factory interest and beginning to get out of reach of privateer budgets.

Stephane's vision has always focused on a pure GT model for FIA GTs - Would he use his influence to get his GT1s to Le mans - of course he would - but the ACO's interest is rather more likely to have been stimulated by the potential for further Factory interest (and promotion) for their key event than for any other motivation to prop up a GT1 World Championship.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Ask the teams that were running 'old rules' GT1s how sustainable they were finding the economics of the class - Entry levels in LMS were never all that impressive despite the draw of LM24 entry potential

GT1 was out of time, out of factory interest and beginning to get out of reach of privateer budgets.

Stephane's vision has always focused on a pure GT model for FIA GTs - Would he use his influence to get his GT1s to Le mans - of course he would - but the ACO's interest is rather more likely to have been stimulated by the potential for further Factory interest (and promotion) for their key event than for any other motivation to prop up a GT1 World Championship.

Hmm, seems rather odd to me on the ACO's part to court Nissan and pi-s off Ferrari, Porsche, GM and to some extent Aston Martin.




L.P.

[Graham Goodwin]

It remains to be seen whether Nissan have bitten!

The forward plan with Ferrari is pretty well established, same with Porsche and Aston Martin.

[LeManske]

Originally Posted by Jamesy-18

Has anyone got a list of the teams racing in GT1 and GT2 up to now? I can't find any list of the rumours/confirmed anywhere!

This is the list I have so far.

GT1
None confirmed at this time. With Larbre and LAA looking at GT2 options and no word on Spartak I think we could have a single GT class next year.

GT2
Confirmed:
- IMSA Performance Matmut - Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (1)
- Team Felbermayr - Proton - Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (2)
- AF Corse - Ferrari F430 GT (2)
- CRS Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- Farnbacher Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- Hankook Team Farnbacher - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- Modena Group Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- BMW Team AC Schnitzer - BMW M3 E92 GT2 (1)
- JMW Motorsports - Aston Martin V8 Vantage GT2 (1)
- Spyker Squadron - Spyker C8 Laviolette GT2R (1)

Likely:
- JMB Stradale Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- CRS Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (second car)
- AF Corse - Ferrari F430 GT (third car for selected rounds)

Possible:
- Trottet Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- EasyRace - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- Advanced Engineering - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- Luc Alphand Adventures - BMW M3 E92 GT2 (2)
- Equipe Verschuur - TBA

Please feel free to comment if I missed something.

[The Badger]

Wasnt there rumour of Trottet Racing going the LMP1 route with a Lola Judd ?

while I can see 2 works (Schnitzer) BMW's .

[LeManske]

What the heck, I could do a LMP list as well

LM P1
Confirmed:
- Team Oreca - Peugeot 908 HDi FAP (1)
- Team Oreca - Oreca 01 - Aim (1) (Junior Team)
- Team Peugeot Total - Peugeot 908 HDi FAP (2) (Selected Rounds)
- Audi Sport Team Joest - Audi R15 TDI (3) (Selected Rounds)
- Rebellion Racing - Lola B10/60 (2)
- Team Kolles - AUdi R10 TDI (2)
- Beechdean Mansell Motorsport - Ginetta-Zytek Z09R (1)
- Team Signature - Lola-Aston Martin B09/60-DBR1 (1)

Likely:
- Aston Martin Racing - Lola-Aston Martin B09/60-DBR1 (2) (Selected Rounds)
- Team Malaysia - Lola B10/60 (1)
- Scuderia Lavaggi - Lavaggi LS01 (1)

Possible:
- Trottet Racing - Lola B10/60 (1)
- Pescarolo Sport - Pescarolo P01 Evo (1) - Hoping for it to happen!!!
- Epsilon Euskadi - Epsilon Euskadi EE-02 (2)

LM P2
Confirmed:
- Strakka Racing - HPD ARX-01b (1)
- RML - Lola B08/80 (1)
- Racing Box - Lola B08/80 (2)
- RLR Msport - Lola B08/80 (1)
- Team Bruichladdich - Ginetta-Zytek 07S/2 (1)
- Quifel - ASM Team - Ginetta-Zytek GZ09S (1)
- WR / Salini - WR LMP (1)
- Pegasus Racing - Courage-Oreca LC75 (1)
- Pegasus Racing - Norma M400 (1)
- Q8 Hache Team - Lucchini LMP2 (1)
- Q8 Hache Team - Zytek or Lola (1)
- Oak Racing - Pescarolo P01 Evo (2)

Likely:
- Jas Motorsport - HPD ARX-01b (1)
- Barazi / Epsilon - Ginetta-Zytek 07S/2 (1)
- Team WFR - Embassy WF01 (1 or 2)
- Ibanez Racing Service - TBA (1)

Possible:
- Team Jota Sport - Ginetta-Zytek GZ09S (1)
- PMB Motorsport - TBA (1)

LM PC
Possible:
- Dams - Oreca FLM09 (2)
- Graff Racing - Oreca FLM09 (1)
- Hope Polevision Racing - Oreca FLM09 (2)
- Applewood - LD Autosport - Oreca FLM09 (1)
- Exagon Engineering - Oreca FLM09 (1)

[Marcel ten Caat]

Originally Posted by LeManske

GT2
Confirmed:
- Farnbacher Racing - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- Hankook Team Farnbacher - Ferrari F430 GT (1)
- BMW Team AC Schnitzer - BMW M3 E92 GT2 (1)
- Spyker Squadron - Spyker C8 Laviolette GT2R (1)

Possible:
- Equipe Verschuur - TBA

Please feel free to comment if I missed something.

Schnitzer hasn't confirmed any LMS entry, only said they are planning to run the car if it is homologated by the ACO.

Equipe Verschuur is not confirmed. There were talks early 2009 about a GT project but it has been quiet since. Must admit they will announce a new program in February.

Farnbacher and Spyker have not confirmed any program. Although Farnbacher is indeed likely to return with 2 and not 3 cars...but nothing 100% solid.

[Marcel ten Caat]

As for other lists with (potential) 2010 entries...

http://tinyurl.com/ybg3oz5
http://tinyurl.com/y97o49o

[pablocomics]

Advanced engineering isn´t a rename of AF Corse car?

Related to LMC, I though Boutsen energy confirmed their presence, aren´t they?

[LeMans.pt]

Claudio Berro, Lotus Motorsport Director:

So surely we are not talking about Le Mans in 2010 too?
"No, we are though very interested in a programme for 2011."
And what might that programme look like?
"If Lotus were to do this (Le Mans) it would only make sense as a Lotus built car with a Lotus engine."
So could we be talking about a Lotus production engine in the new LMP2 rules?
"No, we would be looking to LMP1 only."

....and insistent talk about a Ferrari LMP1 program on Autosport International Show!

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

Claudio Berro, Lotus Motorsport Director:



....and insistent talk about a Ferrari LMP1 program on Autosport International Show!

If you are going to cut and paste articles please could you credit them at the very least?

[arakis]

I am guessing its by you

[The Badger]

Where is the source of the rumoured Ferrari proto project please ?

[LeMans.pt]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

If you are going to cut and paste articles please could you credit them at the very least?

You are absolutely right. My (big) mistake!
The source is the Dailysportscar.com

[arakis]

Originally Posted by LeMans.pt

You are absolutely right. My (big) mistake!
The source is the Dailysportscar.com

for witch site the one who scorned you works for http://www.dailysportscar.com/aboutUs.cfm#gg

Originally Posted by The Badger

Where is the source of the rumoured Ferrari proto project please ?

I secod that question

[The Badger]

Somehow I cant see Ferrari being interested in anything less that a V12 , after all its their trademark .

[mirkob]

Originally Posted by LeManske

This is the list I have so far.

GT1
None confirmed at this time. With Larbre and LAA looking at GT2 options and no word on Spartak I think we could have a single GT class next year.

Marc VDS confirmed me, via email, Full LMS with 1x Ford GT in December.

[Mal]

Originally Posted by arakis

for witch site the one who scorned you works for http://www.dailysportscar.com/aboutUs.cfm#gg



I secod that question

http://www.dailysportscar.com/headlines.cfm