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Old 17 Sep 2010, 19:37 (Ref:2761004)   #16
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I heard there was going to be a teams championship in order to encourage GT teams to run a full season.
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Old 17 Sep 2010, 19:42 (Ref:2761007)   #17
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There already is a Team Cup, in all 4 categories. There was however discussion of adding a Drivers Cup, something which is not in place in 2010.
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Old 17 Sep 2010, 19:47 (Ref:2761008)   #18
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Appaprently the rule is that if you want to do the ILMC, you have to commit to do all seven rounds
And thats why it doesn't make any sense a Team Championship! I don't see Porsche supporting Felbermayr and/or Flying Lizard, Ferrari supporting Risi and/or AF Corse, BMW supporting Schnitzer and/or Rahal, for a full ILMC season. We probably are the going to see something like Porsche or Ferrari winning the Manufactures Title, and Jaguar RSR winning the Teams Title with 5th, 6th and 7th place finishes...

Keep it simple and understandable for the average fan, or people will still find this sport to damn incomprehensible, and therefore, to hard to follow. It is already hard to sell because the races are longgggggggggggg... why make it impossible?
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Old 17 Sep 2010, 19:54 (Ref:2761013)   #19
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I heard there was going to be a teams championship in order to encourage GT teams to run a full season.
There are Teams Titles in all classes, and Manufactures Titles in LMP1 and GT2. Which GT2 team you see with a budget for 7 long courses around the World?
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Old 17 Sep 2010, 20:28 (Ref:2761016)   #20
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There are Teams Titles in all classes, and Manufactures Titles in LMP1 and GT2. Which GT2 team you see with a budget for 7 long courses around the World?
The proposal is a modification to one of the above to encourage a season long entry.

As for budgets teams would need to fork out for four extra events not seven.

All teams will already be going to Le Mans and competing at either Spa/Silverstone or Sebring/PLM.

There's no doubt an ILMC entry is easier for European teams to fit around their smaller LMS schedule, or replace it entirely, than their US counterparts.
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Old 17 Sep 2010, 21:09 (Ref:2761033)   #21
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The proposal is a modification to one of the above to encourage a season long entry.

As for budgets teams would need to fork out for four extra events not seven.

All teams will already be going to Le Mans and competing at either Spa/Silverstone or Sebring/PLM.

There's no doubt an ILMC entry is easier for European teams to fit around their smaller LMS schedule, or replace it entirely, than their US counterparts.

Especially depending on logistical compensation/allowance by the ACO for the teams in the ILMC series.


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I disagree with a drivers championship. Le Mans is a team sport, not an individual sport.

How about this idea for the teams championship: only the best two results in Europe and the best two in North America are taken. This would allow teams to fight for the championship without having to race everywhere, but still demanding to visit the three continents.
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Old 18 Sep 2010, 14:19 (Ref:2761228)   #23
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The media latch onto driver rivalries so it's another angle to promote the series.

The mainstream Silverstone coverage was dominated by interviews with the likes of Davidson and Mansell, whatsmore the drivers want a title so I can't see any downside.
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It downgrades the other titles.
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I think only a Manufacturers and Driver championship makes sense in GT.

As already mentioned, unless Ferrari and Porsche change their business model, you won't have Felbermayrs coming over to America taking away Flying Lizard and Falken Tire drivers, and vice versa.
Even for Corvette, with the rumours of European privateers driving Vettes next year, it makes sense.
GT is already quite expensive and 'forcing' teams to commit to 4 more races or whatever, could be a potential nail in a future coffin. Let's not get carried away without analyzing the long term effects.
For makers like Jaguar and Spyker it could pose a problem but, as already questioned before in the case of Spyker, if they have no US market, they don't lose much by continuing to focus on the LMS.
For Jaguar, the way their ALMS program is going, unless they improve that, it would just put more salt in their own wounds by bringing that car to Europe as well.
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I think only a Manufacturers and Driver championship makes sense in GT.

As already mentioned, unless Ferrari and Porsche change their business model, you won't have Felbermayrs coming over to America taking away Flying Lizard and Falken Tire drivers, and vice versa.
Even for Corvette, with the rumours of European privateers driving Vettes next year, it makes sense.
GT is already quite expensive and 'forcing' teams to commit to 4 more races or whatever, could be a potential nail in a future coffin. Let's not get carried away without analyzing the long term effects.
For makers like Jaguar and Spyker it could pose a problem but, as already questioned before in the case of Spyker, if they have no US market, they don't lose much by continuing to focus on the LMS.
For Jaguar, the way their ALMS program is going, unless they improve that, it would just put more salt in their own wounds by bringing that car to Europe as well.
Your aspects are only looking at the manufacturers view... and refering to the works teams or semi works teams but we also have a lot of independant teams on the grids with maybe different intentions of running their cars. Also keep in mind the sponsors with their targets on marketing... and they are paying the bills at least and have a say...

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Old 23 Sep 2010, 20:37 (Ref:2763727)   #28
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Old 23 Sep 2010, 20:49 (Ref:2763732)   #29
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that list looks like it could make a nice race!
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Old 23 Sep 2010, 23:47 (Ref:2763786)   #30
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On a recent interview Hugues de Chaunac said that their patrocinator isn´t interested on ILMC. Oreca would need a different patrocinator from Mamut assurance or thewon´t do the ILMC.
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