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13 Sep 2020, 09:12 (Ref:4002093) | #451 | |
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Yes, WTCR is the biggest motorsport disappointment in recent years. Results seem like a lottery, circuits are terrible and the whole BOP bull.hit takes any interest out of it. Even if I try I can't follow it, sometimes it's impossible to understand the championship.
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13 Sep 2020, 09:42 (Ref:4002096) | #452 | ||
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SRO had many problems with GT3 BOP to begin with but now they seem to have found a great balance, maybe WTCR/TCR need to get in touch and get some advice?
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13 Sep 2020, 10:18 (Ref:4002103) | #454 | |
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wouldnt work. wtcr uses different ecu, different tyres and level of teams and drivers is higher
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13 Sep 2020, 21:07 (Ref:4002297) | #455 | ||
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I agree that TCR manufacturers shouldn't ask for benefits. It's a BoPed championship, get over it.
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Santiago Urrutia performed very well. Zolder is not the best racetrack to overtake, and he qualified well and kept up in rhythm.
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20 Sep 2020, 22:21 (Ref:4005210) | #459 | |
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They had trouble integrating the C-ECU to a Golf last year. Compatibility with existing systems in the cars seems to be the main sticking point, when VW/Audi/Cupra use Bosch, and Honda uses Motec, for instance.
Looking back 5 years ago, it could have been addressed then... |
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24 Sep 2020, 07:03 (Ref:4005985) | #460 | |
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Hyundai have withdrawn from the Nurburgring round over the BOP issues....
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24 Sep 2020, 08:31 (Ref:4006003) | #462 | |
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Has the demolition of WTCR just begun or is it a wake-up call for organisers to finally change something?
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Childish from Hyundai.
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25 Sep 2020, 18:32 (Ref:4006249) | #466 | ||
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Big drama at the Nordschleife.
Santiago Urrutia misses weighting, and his teammate Yvan Muller jumps from 11th to 1st for race 1. Björk lets Ehrlacher go at the last chicane. Tassi says Urrutia crhased him, Urrutia says he got a puncture and the car drifted. |
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26 Sep 2020, 00:18 (Ref:4006283) | #467 | ||
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No way. They got no action over Lynk and Co, and now I think their complaints are warranted.
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26 Sep 2020, 08:46 (Ref:4006329) | #468 | ||
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I dont think ive ever seen a good WTCC/WTCR race at Nordschleife.
Infact, when was the last "good" WTCR race? |
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26 Sep 2020, 10:38 (Ref:4006347) | #469 | |
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Who cares how good the racing is? Any kind of racing on the Nordschleife is a great spectacle
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26 Sep 2020, 16:42 (Ref:4006428) | #470 | ||
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What sort of attitude is that? Would you be happy to see a repeat of the 1926 French Grand Prix?
For as great of a ribbon of tarmac the Nordschleife is, it isn't a good racing circuit. The 8-car grid at Okayama in TCR Japan produced better racing this morning. |
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27 Sep 2020, 09:57 (Ref:4006676) | #471 | |
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I think sometimes people get too fixated on the racing. I’m not saying we should tolerate low grids and the like, but sometimes spectacle can be just as important
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27 Sep 2020, 13:31 (Ref:4006801) | #472 | ||
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But the whole point of motor racing is... racing, funnily enough.
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28 Sep 2020, 11:09 (Ref:4007145) | #473 | |
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Yeah, but it’s all relative really. Spectacle is just as important
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30 Sep 2020, 08:37 (Ref:4007534) | #474 | ||
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There is something very wrong with the managing of this championship. The fall has been vertically! And if you see TCR Europe you understand there's something isn't working.
Apart for the races, clearly not spectacular because of the majority of the circuits not propers for touring cars, I think someone has lacked to manage this series with both official teams and semi official and independent teams. To lose also Hyundai in such a period... very bad |
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30 Sep 2020, 13:47 (Ref:4007566) | #475 | ||
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The choice of tracks has been bizarre for years, add in the over-zealous stewarding and frankly bizarre BOP changes from race to race, and you are left with this boring snooze-fest.
This is supposed to be the pinnacle of touring car racing... Get them on tracks that actually suit touring car racing, sort out the BOP once and for all, and let them go racing. |
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