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Old 31 Jul 2001, 12:23 (Ref:124295)   #1
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AGP Celebrity race

Apparently the car being used in 2002 will be the all new Mini Cooper S. There are proposed to be 36 cars built and prepared in the UK, and brought out for the race... will be interesting.
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Old 31 Jul 2001, 14:38 (Ref:124367)   #2
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cool ..sounds like a barrel of fun ..mini's at the Grand prix..Old brit boy sparky would be impressed..now if they can just get some really good drivers it should be a hoot.
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Old 31 Jul 2001, 21:02 (Ref:124471)   #3
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This is good news - something intersting. I for one would love one.
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Old 31 Jul 2001, 21:38 (Ref:124482)   #4
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Thought you would prefer Cortinas... at least they're more expendable!

I hate these timewasting celebrity races...
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 00:05 (Ref:124528)   #5
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Thought you would prefer Cortinas... at least they're more expendable!

I hate these timewasting celebrity races...
So do I.

(But I suppose there is a large element of jealously in that.)
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 01:28 (Ref:124545)   #6
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whatever, the celebrity race is great, adds a lighter side to the grand prix weekend, and the racing isn't to bad either, if you like watching bad driving. Channel 9 even manage to show cars past 3rd place in this race.
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 02:04 (Ref:124554)   #7
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and their commentators even manage to coax people into causing accidents !!!!!!
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 05:20 (Ref:124586)   #8
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It's not motor racing and therefore should be discussed here... except in the Gravel Trap!
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 12:00 (Ref:124706)   #9
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The celebrity races have their moments.
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 14:39 (Ref:124767)   #10
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Old 1 Aug 2001, 21:18 (Ref:124931)   #11
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Ray,

I have had one Cortina. Unfortunately a TC not a GT!

Have had two Minis. One a Clubman GT. Great cars.
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Old 2 Aug 2001, 00:15 (Ref:125002)   #12
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Now for my $0.02

It was brought up in a conversation the other night, that there is a difference between the AGP at Adelaide and Melbourne. In Adelaide, you used to get all sorts of things, like FF, F2, FHolden, STs, V8s etc etc. These days in Melbourne, it is more entertainment based. Things like Nascars, the Porsche Sueprcup, or Lamborghini Challenge, or the old styled sports car race.

The celebrity races scare me no end- a heap of inexperienced drivers out there going nuts...imagine the negative press if one of these 'stars' got hurt...

The on the other hand, the punters at the track probably love them, and it is a bit of a feature of the channel 9 coverage...
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Old 2 Aug 2001, 02:14 (Ref:125038)   #13
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The celebrity races scare me no end- a heap of inexperienced drivers out there going nuts...imagine the negative press if one of these 'stars' got hurt
Not sure what year it was but at the Adelaide GP during a celebrity race lead singer of Dire Straits Mark Knoffler crashed heavily at the first chicane on lap One and broke his colorbone..nasty crash indeed

cant think of anyone else who has been injured in one of these races ..so the safety record is very good indeed.
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Old 2 Aug 2001, 02:50 (Ref:125048)   #14
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Then on the other hand, the punters at the track probably love them, and it is a bit of a feature of the channel 9 coverage...
Of course it is... they get over half an hour each day to promote their stars and show! So many of the 'celebrities' are their celebrities, the girl who digs the dirt on the gardening show, the guy who introduces the dolls on the kid's show, the weather man from Perth... all the important people...
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Old 2 Aug 2001, 04:42 (Ref:125060)   #15
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Ray- You forgot Barry Humphries...who drives like a girl...

Marcus- Remember at Melbourne, probably 2 years ago now, some girlie had a big roll over...nasty...
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Would it be rude if I said "Serves them right!"?

It's how I feel, anyway, as scads of people wanting to watch motor racing are forced to watch a sideshow, and as a legitimate category misses out on a race on a once-a-year circuit...
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Old 2 Aug 2001, 09:48 (Ref:125142)   #17
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Would it be rude if I said "Serves them right!"?

It's how I feel, anyway, as scads of people wanting to watch motor racing are forced to watch a sideshow, and as a legitimate category misses out on a race on a once-a-year circuit...
I couldn't agree with you more. Not only does a legitimate category miss out on the television exposure but also the sponsorship opportunities that go with it. The reason that the Australian Grand Prix is such a corporate parade is that it is one of a few Grand Prix around the world that is actually run by a company, not a motoring organization or the circuit itself.
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Would it be rude if I said "Serves them right!"?

It's how I feel, anyway, as scads of people wanting to watch motor racing are forced to watch a sideshow, and as a legitimate category misses out on a race on a once-a-year circuit...
It's pretty well true. There is someone missing out while 9 promotes 9.
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How the hell can people be given a CAMS licence and race at an International meeting when some of them can't even drive let alone pass the medical (Dawn Fraser)CAMS says licence conditions are strict but sometimes they bend the rules to suit the whims of the promoters.

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How the hell can people be given a CAMS licence and race at an International meeting when some of them can't even drive let alone pass the medical (Dawn Fraser)CAMS says licence conditions are strict but sometimes they bend the rules to suit the whims of the promoters.

I find it highly unlikely that any of the competitors in those "celebrity" races have a CAMS licence let alone a road one. If they were real celebrities wouldn't they have cheffeurs for ferrying them around?
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Old 3 Aug 2001, 22:55 (Ref:125698)   #21
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Many years ago, they decided to run a competition through BP service stations where a member of the public could win a drive in the celebrity GP. Unfortunately CAMS general competition licence holders were excluded.

Anyway some bloke from Adelaide who'd done the odd supersprint and motorkhana on a basic licence won the ride. He got pole easily and cleared off and left all the celebrities for dead, winning by a country mile. As a result, he got bugger all coverage and the public have never again had the oppurtunity to take part. Can't show up the network stars now can we?
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whatever, the celebrity race is great, adds a lighter side to the grand prix weekend, and the racing isn't to bad either, if you like watching bad driving.
I agree, it is great for a laugh. It's clearly not to be taken seriously.

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The most honest thing written in this thread so far

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and their commentators even manage to coax people into causing accidents !!!!!!
I thought that was a classic. What an idiot At least she's a babe

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Would it be rude if I said "Serves them right!"?
Would it be rude if I said "turn your TV off if you don't like it?" Ray, it may come as a suprise, but there are many that like these races. If it did'nt rate well, they would'nt show it. (Hmm, that does'nt explain Neighbours )

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I find it highly unlikely that any of the competitors in those "celebrity" races have a CAMS licence let alone a road one.
Well actually, they do have CAMS licences - Scary is'nt it

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As a result, he got bugger all coverage and the public have never again had the oppurtunity to take part. Can't show up the network stars now can we?
Actually David, they always have a member of the public at the Melbourne GP. It is a competition run though the Herald-Sun newspaper where 3 people win to do the training week and one is selected to race(it was a girl this year). I think this is how they keep anyone out that might win. It is interesting to note that at no time was that winner shown on TV. That sucks
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and their commentators even manage to coax people into causing accidents !!!!!!
Excellent wasn't it. one of AJ's golden moments

As for the mini's , yes please. Anyone remember when they raced at Bathurst? Great stuff going by the video I watched To be fair they did have real pilots though
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Minis at Bathurst...?? what a drag!!

Minis were best at a circuit where there were more corners, like Warwick Farm, where they actually challenged Mustangs and the like...

As for celebrity races, I fail to see why enthusiasts, who have to wait a year to see 'their' race, have to put up with endless chatter about TV 'stars' they have (in many cases) no knowledge of as they run around in perfectly good cars showing what fools they are.

As mentioned, it's particularly galling for competitors who might otherwise have got to run on that circuit just once in their lives...

And I really doubt that it attracts viewers from among the TV nerds to watch the GP, and that it really rates that well.
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I know my mother always seems to watch the celebrity races...does that count?
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