...Street races for Homebush & Townsville...Oran Park to go in 2 years...

[retro]

.....credit to...www, foxsportsnews.com.au.......

Ambrose leads qualifying
September 10, 2005

SUPERCAR series leader Marcos Ambrose today made an early claim for back-to-back Sandown 500 victories when he headed the field in qualifying.

The Falcon driver put himself on top of the timesheets ahead of the Top Ten Shootout for tomorrow's enduro when he held off the rival Ford of Craig Lowndes.

Holden Racing Team owner Mark Skaife's quick late lap boosted him up the table to third fastest and made him the leading Commodore driver.

Holden's Steven Richards was fourth ahead of the Falcons of Steve Ellery and Russell Ingall, Ambrose's teammate at Stone Brothers Racing.

Ambrose, the defending Sandown champion and V8 championship pacesetter, clocked a time of 1minute 10.671seconds.

The lap, on a track with damp patches after earlier showers, was just .07 of a second outside his qualifying lap record of 2004.

He finished just over a tenth of a second ahead of Lowndes with Skaife a further tenth of a second slower.

Ingall had set the pace in practice for the event yesterday but today was pushed down the list, still qualifying comfortably inside the top 10 for the all-important shootout session.

Meanwhile AVESCO chairman Tony Cochrane said today that the Supercar series was still pushing to establish street races in Townsville and at Sydney's Homebush.

Sydney lost the Eastern Creek round for 2006 because of the new round in Bahrain but retains a race at Oran Park.

However Cochrane said Oran Park was only likely to be a fixture on the V8 calendar for the next two years.

He also said Phillip Island would be assessed as a grand finale for next season based on its success as the last round this year.
AAP

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by retro

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Meanwhile AVESCO chairman Tony Cochrane said today that the Supercar series was still pushing to establish street races in Townsville and at Sydney's Homebush.

This man doesn't give up does he.

Originally Posted by retro

However Cochrane said Oran Park was only likely to be a fixture on the V8 calendar for the next two years.[/B]

What about Oran Parks replacement circuit ?

Originally Posted by retro

He also said Phillip Island would be assessed as a grand finale for next season based on its success as the last round this year.
AAP

Or is it being put in italics for Avesco to give themselves time to work a better deal for PI, as we should not forget that Avesco IS paying Phillip Island to use the venue thus year.

[retro]

Meanwhile AVESCO chairman Tony Cochrane said today that the Supercar series was still pushing to establish street races in Townsville and at Sydney's Homebush.

We can only presume the paperclip will make way for Townsville. :-(

Anyone with circuit diagrams for these 2 street races can you post them??

[HRT433]

source: http://www.racingcircuits.net

[TSR]

[QUOTE=retro].....credit to...www, foxsportsnews.com.au.......


However Cochrane said Oran Park was only likely to be a fixture on the V8 calendar for the next two years.[/B]

Was not the owner of Oran Park going to build an copy circut at Wilton

[mtpanorama]

I have heard that Oran Park has signed for 06,07 and 08

[inpitlane]

According to Tony, OP will be OK for at least 06 and 07 and probably for 08. He also suggested that if EC was to start attracting spectators then they need to redesign the circuit, including running racing in the opposite direction. He also said he thought the A1 Grand Prix would struggle, he questioned the NSW's Governments support for an unproven product. As for Homebush he said that he wasn't losing sleep over it but he could see the potential claiming it would attract 150'000 and should be the final round. in fact he said it "would be bigger than the second coming." He said Townsville was fully designed but that there was still lots of major work to do including the building of a new bridge.
Cochrane was in a very reflective mood perhaps brought about by the fact that he was loaded up with the flu and clearly very tired from his recent travels to Bahrain.
He made quite a passionate argument for the contributions made by AVESCO to the standard of Motorsport in Australia and their role in improving circuit infrastructure.
I have an Interview lined up with him for tomorrow but judging by his condition today whether he's able to front is debatable. FWIW whatever you say about AVESCO or V8 Supercars as a category, my god the whole show has taken on an incredible new level of professionalisim. It's no Le Mans but no doubt it's World class.

[Robert Ryan]

FWIW whatever you say about AVESCO or V8 Supercars as a category, my god the whole show has taken on an incredible new level of professionalisim. It's no Le Mans but no doubt it's World class.
On what he has and the organisation has done for Australian Motorsport. Even Speedway is getting out from it's shell and doing interesting things. One thing is for certain compared to the 1960's when I became interested in Motor Racing, we have in Australia become a lot more comfortable about the local product, no matter what it is, and know we can compete on the World Stage.

[TSR]

With due respect inpitlane, the v8supertaxi as a world class event I do not think it is even half way there yet. It is running of the super mouth of Aussie Bernie to which he is KILLING motorsprt in Australia, And his ego is to big to see the damage he is doing.

[Robert Ryan]

TSR you are far so from the truth it aint funny/.

[Raglanparade]

Does a 15-16 Round Championship sound familiar to anyone ?

[pete55]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

TSR you are far so from the truth it aint funny/.

But still a lot closer than you are.

[BJAY]

Originally Posted by HRT433

source: http://www.racingcircuits.net

Acording to that outline, this is where the Homebush track would be held.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...3/Homebush.jpg

Thanks to Google Earth

BJ

[Robert Ryan]

Pete...Wonderful reply. So TC is the same as Bernie E? .Runs the greatest motorsport competition on the planet, with the best known drivers and is rolling in sponsorship money. TSR and Pete come up with a better comparison and more facts.

[retro]

"I would put Townsville in the high probability stakes" Cochran,chairman of series managers, AVESCO said at Sandown yesterday.

"I'm sure the planets will line up"

"A circuit has been engineered and completed by AVESCO for Townsville"

Cochran claims that Eastern Creek needs $15 million pumped into it to bring it up to speed and make it a desirible location for fans.

Cochran is not making any commitment to pushing for a Homebush race.

"Homebush needs us,we don't need Homebush." the vocal chairman said.


credit to Gordon Lomas..

[pete55]

Originally Posted by Robert Ryan

Pete...Wonderful reply. So TC is the same as Bernie E? .Runs the greatest motorsport competition on the planet, with the best known drivers and is rolling in sponsorship money. TSR and Pete come up with a better comparison and more facts.

If you think F1 is the greatest motorsport competition on the planet then i'm sorry but i think you are so far out of touch with reality. F1 is dying, the fields are the smallest now for many many years. There are also only a few teams that are well financed. The 'racing' is a bore.
V8 Supercars are heading in the same direction. Also the point bought up was that Cochrane and his cronies are looking after V8 Supercars to the detriment of other categories and circuits in this country with the street race mentallty. The only thing that TC cares about is how much money he can put in his pocket and he will do that only until he can't do it anymore and walk away. He is a leech, nothing more, nothing less.

[lookleft]

Originally Posted by BJAY

Acording to that outline, this is where the Homebush track would be held.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...3/Homebush.jpg

Thanks to Google Earth

BJ

OMG what a rubbis effort. I would have thoughtafter the Canberra fiasco a lesson would have been learnt. Did they get Skaife to design this too?

No character at all - might as well go to the local Wollies carpark and lay out some orange cones and call it "the 2nd greatest track in NSW".

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by inpitlane

He also suggested that if EC was to start attracting spectators then they need to redesign the circuit, including running racing in the opposite direction.

Viewing at Eastern Creek is no worse than that at Avesco's much loved Adelaide or even Albert Park, however they still draw excellent crowds.

Why a re-design, other categories have no problem putting on good racing at Eastern Creek.

Originally Posted by inpitlane

He also said he thought the A1 Grand Prix would struggle, he questioned the NSW's Governments support for an unproven product.

Jealous much

Originally Posted by inpitlane

As for Homebush he said that he wasn't losing sleep over it but he could see the potential claiming it would attract 150'000 and should be the final round. in fact he said it "would be bigger than the second coming.".

Theres still that little problem of the environmental issue regarding the Homebush race. I for one dont think a motor race should be held at Homebush.



[QUOTE=inpitlane]He made quite a passionate argument for the contributions made by AVESCO to the standard of Motorsport in Australia and their role in improving circuit infrastructure.[/QUOTE

What did he say about the Avesco's lastest move of deserting this infrastructure and putting its long term viability in Jeopardy ?

Originally Posted by inpitlane

FWIW whatever you say about AVESCO or V8 Supercars as a category, my god the whole show has taken on an incredible new level of professionalisim. It's no Le Mans but no doubt it's World class.

A wise man once said, theres a difference between commercialism and professionalism.

In my opinion it is Avesco's antics that prevent v8's from being termed high in professionalism or world class.

[Robert Ryan]

Pete 55 F1 dying ? Well it is a doing very bad imitation of it, with more tracks and sponsorship money coming in. Yes I agree the racing is boring, but is expanding.
V8Supercars are on a growth phase. Other catergories need to pull their finger out and help themselves.
Ok we have the negatives . Pete 55 what do rate as a successful series in Australia and overseas, in your opinion?

[Robert Ryan]

Viewing at Eastern Creek is no worse Eastern Creek is a roadracing circuit, the others are Street circuits, so logically more people can access them. I agree I would like to go a roadracing circuit where you can view most of the action, Eastern Creek
is not one of those tracks. Makes old Warwick Farm look great in comparison.
Maybe reasonable races..too bad you cannot see them.

The A1GP hopefully will be good. What success will depend on the TV coverage. Nothing like the "4 Billion viewers" that Alan Jones came up with, but hopefully enough to make the series viable.

V8Supercars are pretty professional and obviously commercial. It is the lack of Commercialism of some struggling catergories here and the very obvious lack of professionalism and commercialism, shown by those two expensive disasters Aussie NASCAR and PROCAR, that have made sponsors and owners wary of new start up ventures here.

[TSR]

Originally Posted by pete55

If you think F1 is the greatest motorsport competition on the planet then i'm sorry but i think you are so far out of touch with reality. F1 is dying, the fields are the smallest now for many many years. There are also only a few teams that are well financed. The 'racing' is a bore.
V8 Supercars are heading in the same direction. Also the point bought up was that Cochrane and his cronies are looking after V8 Supercars to the detriment of other categories and circuits in this country with the street race mentallty. The only thing that TC cares about is how much money he can put in his pocket and he will do that only until he can't do it anymore and walk away. He is a leech, nothing more, nothing less.

Pete55 I agree with you 100%, the best from of motorsport in the world today is the WRC. Aussie Bernie is only worried about how big his bank bank ablance will be on Monday morning, after listening to him dribble today on the home of motorsport saying that there will be 10 races in Oz, one Aussie Bernie is hoping for 10 street race funded by the state goverments and could not give a flying ***k about the perement circuts around Australia, and also he could not give a flying ***k about the paying public.

[Razor]

Well, if Oran Park goes, why don't they bring back Eastern Creek

[Robert Ryan]

WRC is is serious trouble.. bad choice. It has been suffering from a massive blowout in budgets due to escalating technical costs. They the WRC do not have the sponsorship to cover the costs...the car manufacturers are not footing the bills any longer. So they are looking at much simpler WRC. My problem with rallying it is not a "spectator sport" unless you are standing right next to a forest special stage.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by TSR

one Aussie Bernie is hoping for 10 street race funded by the state goverments and could not give a flying ***k about the perement circuts around Australia, and also he could not give a flying ***k about the paying public.

havent you contradicted yourself there. the biggest crowdwise v8 round is the clipsal its a street circuit. but it pulls the biggest paying public.

maybe he dosnt care about permanent circuits but he does care about the paying public. thus he wants more street circuits.

it would seem you maybe the one who dosnt care about the paying public. but more about your self interest.

[pete55]

Originally Posted by peckstar

havent you contradicted yourself there. the biggest crowdwise v8 round is the clipsal its a street circuit. but it pulls the biggest paying public.

maybe he dosnt care about permanent circuits but he does care about the paying public. thus he wants more street circuits.

That's the greatest piece of c... i have ever seen written. Street circuits do not offer good viewing of the race so how does that 'care about the public'. The viewing at a street circuit is a lot worse than Eastern Creek which everybody is bagging. I think we have a strange lot of so called motorsport fans out there.