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4 Jan 2011, 17:39 (Ref:2811101) | #1 | ||
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Trouble sealing middle exhaust, kent....
The bolt pattern of the kent exhaust was obviously designed for the solid cast iron manifold. As a result I'm having difficulty sealing ports 2&3 on my tubular system.
The leaks are always from the top and bottom of the flange. Only having 2 mounting points, left and right of the ports allows the flange to rock up and down i guess.... Any wisdom out there? Am I all alone with this one? |
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4 Jan 2011, 18:44 (Ref:2811120) | #2 | ||
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We had this problem when I raced FF1600 in the 80's and early 90's. Because the 2 bolts are holding 2 pipes we had sealing issues and also had regular cracks around the flange. We used exhaust jointing compound to help stick the flange to the gaskets/head but that's not always good for exhaust flow. We also cut the 2 & 3 exhaust pipes and loosely joined them before the 4 pipes met the silencer. This relieved the strain on 2 & 3 but again may have disturbed flow and also changed the dB level
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4 Jan 2011, 18:55 (Ref:2811128) | #3 | ||
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This is usually the norm, particularly on older exhaust systems.
One way I got around this, is if you put a metal ruler against the two mounting bores of the flange, and you can see daylight between the centre of the flange, then put the manifold pipes in a vice, and with a high quality metal file, flatten the flange, and keep checking how flat is against the ruler. Once you have a flat flange, ensure you use the correct gasket, and make sure you use the correct torque setting for the manifold bolts. A reason that the flange might have been mis-shaped, is if the flange is not thick enough, or in the past, the bolts have been over tightened, damaging the gasket, not necessarily the threads! An extra way to help prevent a leaking manifold, would be to use exhaust cement. Incredibly ugly, but if you haven’t got all the £££ for a new exhaust system, its a cheap way out. TTFN |
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4 Jan 2011, 20:31 (Ref:2811179) | #4 | ||
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The Australian regs don't require you to run the gasket. simply use high temp silicone sealant. Most of the guys in NSW were doing this when I started 10 years ago. The Red RTV for about $15 a tube Must be the high temp stuff it's easier to remove. As a bonus it's cheaper and much less messy than the exhaust manifold cement and doesn't reallly require changing any more often.
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4 Jan 2011, 23:16 (Ref:2811257) | #5 | ||
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Thanks! I'll investigate both solutions...
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5 Jan 2011, 05:38 (Ref:2811322) | #6 | ||
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I had the same issue with an aftermarket, 6 branch manifold I bought for my classic road car, obviously distorted during welding. I managed to find a machine shop who were willing to skim it, they did a good job and weren't too expensive, it must have been a pain to clamp it tight enough for machining but they managed.
Worth considering... |
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7 Jan 2011, 06:51 (Ref:2812277) | #7 | ||
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I used this stuff on the exhaust:- http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...sket_maker.htm
Lasted today's dyno test:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWy1r...layer_embedded Any better goo out there? Will see how it goes... Thanks! |
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