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Old 24 Aug 2005, 20:36 (Ref:1390479)   #51
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Totally agree with you. I have been a spectator for most of the season, and the races have been the best by far. Its about time the main organizing clubs realized that people want to see a variaty of proper saloons looning about, and not boring one make championships.
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Old 24 Aug 2005, 20:57 (Ref:1390495)   #52
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The endurance race was just that, a test of the spectators enjurance!
What a grim 45 mins. How come we only get 11mins, 25 cars Vs 11 = no brainer.
I think we were the "star attraction"
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Old 24 Aug 2005, 20:58 (Ref:1390496)   #53
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Totally agree with you. I have been a spectator for most of the season, and the races have been the best by far. Its about time the main organizing clubs realized that people want to see a variaty of proper saloons looning about, and not boring one make championships.
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Old 24 Aug 2005, 21:02 (Ref:1390498)   #54
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Yes but the boring one make championships get a large dollop of manufacturers sponsorship money of which the organising clubs take off a sizable chunk (I have my cynical hat on). I was having this arguement years ago which is why we started the ModProds and that championship bought in a great variety of cars, not quite as great as the variety of the TRC though I must admit. I personally think this looks great and I was worried my old american lumps might appear out of place but by the stuff lined up here i now don't think so. Mind you I always hated the one make stuff, just plain boring to me even if they are Porsches
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 08:16 (Ref:1390757)   #55
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. I personally think this looks great and I was worried my old american lumps might appear out of place but by the stuff lined up here i now don't think so. Mind you I always hated the one make stuff, just plain boring to me even if they are Porsches
what it really needs is the circuit owners to get together with the clubs and put on full grids of good stuff like TRC AND start to promote the racing and get lots of spectators to come to pay a sensable amount of money on the gate to watch, maybe then us racers wouldn't have to pay for every thing.

many years ago if i was bored on a sat or sun i would drive down to brands, not even knowing what was on, but i knew that for a cheap entry fee i could watch some good racing

Arhhh those were the days
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 08:19 (Ref:1390761)   #56
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Can you remember that far back Graham?
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 08:49 (Ref:1390789)   #57
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I was told the "UK Endurance Cup" paid nearly £12,000 for their races. The club would be foolish to turn that sort of money away, but it needs to look at whether it wants to attract spectators or have a glorified track day for about a dozen cars.
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 11:13 (Ref:1390887)   #58
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Can you remember that far back Graham?
err yes
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 11:15 (Ref:1390890)   #59
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IThe club would be foolish to turn that sort of money away, but it needs to look at whether it wants to attract spectators or have a glorified track day for about a dozen cars.
there must be a middle ground though,

put sue in charge thats what i say!!!
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 11:49 (Ref:1390912)   #60
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I'd say a third short squirt of a race with a reverse grid, time permitting.
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 13:37 (Ref:1391006)   #61
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I'd say a third short squirt of a race with a reverse grid, time permitting.
nice idea, but the whole idea of the TRC is to keep entry fees low, which is partly why we only do one practise, a third race would probably add to the cost, although it might be a nice idea for the occassional "away " event
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 17:52 (Ref:1391191)   #62
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I'd say a third short squirt of a race with a reverse grid, time permitting.
Not too sure about a total reverse grid, I'm not sure all of us are ready for that one yet - at least at the moment we get a wake up call from Rod, then those following are only in small bunches !
It might work reversing the first five, then the next five,and so on all the way down the grid. We'd be bunched nearer each others lap times, and even if you were number 3 in the bunch starting in your proper grid position, you'd have two guys in front who you qualified faster than, and two behind who qualified faster than you - so there'd be plenty to play for. What do the others think - not to sure i'd be so keen if I was in contention for a class championship rather than out there just having fun !
Roll on next season - more power - less weight, and possibly some decent brakes.
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Oh ! and 4 wheels that stay in one piece for the whole race !
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What wheels were they Alan? In the past it was always the thing to use a proper rim like a Revolution, a Minilight or a Comptomotive, some of these Chav stuff wheels on the market just simply do not look strong enough for the rigours of racing.
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Old 25 Aug 2005, 22:13 (Ref:1391396)   #64
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Why dont the enjuro boys do track days instead?
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Old 26 Aug 2005, 08:18 (Ref:1391587)   #65
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I think Alan was using a genuine GM wheel, previously used for Group N racing.
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Old 26 Aug 2005, 15:58 (Ref:1391942)   #66
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I think Alan was using a genuine GM wheel, previously used for Group N racing.
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Old 26 Aug 2005, 17:03 (Ref:1391989)   #67
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Old 26 Aug 2005, 17:04 (Ref:1391990)   #68
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Whats happening with the Escort??
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Old 26 Aug 2005, 17:40 (Ref:1392015)   #69
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Sue has taken it all to bits again!! I keep trying to persuade her to go shopping but she is allergic to it.
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Old 26 Aug 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1392091)   #70
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she's gonna have to put it back together on her own this time.

P.s rod, you might want to sell her a torque wrench for doing up the front diff bolts!
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Old 27 Aug 2005, 10:02 (Ref:1392368)   #71
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Just a few thoughts on Snetterton. Maybe the organisers should think about 2 day meetings and the cost implecation to competitors. The meal on Saturday evening meant a large dent in the budget due to large ammounts of wine being purchased.The site of Mrs Birley, under the Escort with oil and stuff covering her hands, removing the front diff was a sight to see. A site that would warm any petrol heads heart.Well done Sue. I tried to convince Karen that this was the way forward but she had to go shopping instead.
Appart from all the drama's and Alan,s wheel breaking what great racing.By the way following Alans overnight stay in brother Andrews horse box I think he should be named DOBBIN Cherry.
Thanks for tips on photographs Al, I will be purchasing that one.
Keep it up lads were doing very well.
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Old 29 Aug 2005, 19:07 (Ref:1393881)   #72
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Bert, was it a puncture on Bill's trailer. Sorry we couldn't pull over, we were alongside a lorry and it would have caused an instant multiple!!!
The journey home was eventful to say the least (fortunately for me I was in my car rather than the camper ). The minis door came open just after leaving Snet, then the trailer suffered a puncture and finally a skylight on the camper flew open!

Good to see you plugging the September 10th meeting at the rallycross today

Les - we've found some more of your oil if you were wondering where it had gone
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Old 30 Aug 2005, 12:38 (Ref:1394448)   #73
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Thanks for that,I wondered where it had gone.Still it will stop the underside of the car going rusty.Sounds like the trip home was as eventful as the race.
I will do me best to keep the oil where it belongs next time.Hope to see you all at Lydden.
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