Therapeutic Use?

midgetman · 15 Nov 2005, 09:03 (Ref:1461117)

Been reading through my licence application today, and am intrigued by the new form I have to complete. If I have an International licence or race in Europe I need to declare my asthma inhalers on an official FIA anti-doping form - more ruddy bureaucracy!

Downloaded the word document easily enough only to find it has to be typewritten - bet the Doc likes to charge for that! Who's got a typewriter these days?

Is this just a case of the FIA taking the p*ss?

Anyone got any idea what happens if I forget to send the form in?

johnw · 15 Nov 2005, 10:16 (Ref:1461191)

Scrutineers have been issued with rubber gloves for more intensive inspections

zefarelly · 15 Nov 2005, 15:27 (Ref:1461418)

don't declare it Midget man

how often is prize money at stake when you race ?

I'm sure 90% of the crap they come out with isn't applicable to 90% of us

for the other 10% . . . .they get paid and pay someone else to deal with it !

**dtype38** · 15 Nov 2005, 17:46 (Ref:1461527)

I bet it's all to do with some European Directive that says all sports have to be drug tested and all competitors, regardless of level, have to be subject to testing. I woudn't worry about it midgetman.... unless, of course, you suddenly start lapping 10 seconds quicker than you've ever gone before, and you haven't done anything to your car

midgetman · 15 Nov 2005, 18:38 (Ref:1461557)

>>>>>>>>you suddenly start lapping 10 seconds quicker than you've ever gone before

Still be off the pace of course ;-)

Sounds like one of those things that if we all ignore it, it'll go away as unenforceable. Just that the licence self-declaration form asks you to tick the "No" box or I'd have "forgotten" all about it.

Thankfully compulsory medical report isn't until NEXT year. And if I get my application in early perhaps no-one'll notice my age for another year, by which time zimmer racing'll be beckoning anyway.

**dtype38** · 15 Nov 2005, 18:42 (Ref:1461560)

Yeh, I'm that age too midgetman. Just went and got my eyes tested just in case I need a year to get them past another medical.

TEAM78 · 15 Nov 2005, 21:34 (Ref:1461697)

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Originally Posted by dtype38

I bet it's all to do with some European Directive that says all sports have to be drug tested and all competitors, regardless of level, have to be subject to testing. I

Your worrying me ere, does that mean that soon those idiots in Brussels will be demanding that all competitors in school sports day will have to be drug tested and pass a medical before being given a licence to compete in a 100m race??

Er excuse me son have you got a licence for that?

**dtype38** · 15 Nov 2005, 22:48 (Ref:1461761)

Oh I very much doubt that. Hadn't you heard that school sports days are now supposed to be "non-competitive"! At my kids' school they "take part" in sporting activities where there are no winners and losers, just "a good time to be had by all, in a spirit of excitement and involvement".

So no need for dope testing there then.......

johnw · 15 Nov 2005, 23:02 (Ref:1461778)

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Originally Posted by dtype38

......At my kids' school they "take part" in sporting activities where there are no winners and losers, ......

So no need for dope testing there then.......

Well, maybe they should test the dope that thought that up?

**dtype38** · 15 Nov 2005, 23:15 (Ref:1461790)

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Originally Posted by johnw

Well, maybe they should test the dope that thought that up?

It was obviously strong enough "dope" that the real world wasn't having too much influence

ianpearson · 16 Nov 2005, 08:52 (Ref:1462060)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

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Thankfully compulsory medical report isn't until NEXT year. And if I get my application in early perhaps no-one'll notice my age for another year, by which time zimmer racing'll be beckoning anyway.

i thought you said earlier you wanted an international licence? i thought you needed a medical every year for one of those? unless i'm reading the form wrong

Eddy V · 16 Nov 2005, 09:49 (Ref:1462099)

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Originally Posted by TEAM78

...does that mean that soon those idiots in Brussels will be demanding that all competitors in school sports day will have to be drug tested....

Good that I'm not from Brussels.

**dtype38** · 16 Nov 2005, 12:06 (Ref:1462218)

Oh I wouldn't go taking anything like that personally Eddy. In the UK the phrase "idiots in Brussels" is used to describe the (possibly) well meaning but (deifinitely) incompetent people in the EU parliment who seem to dream up endless and pointless ways to interfere in the lives of ordinary EU citizens. We do know that most of them don't actually come from Brussels, and also that half the time they aren't even in Brussels. I'm sure people from Brussels are mostly very nice

johnw · 16 Nov 2005, 13:32 (Ref:1462268)

Touched a nerve, eh dtype

**dtype38** · 16 Nov 2005, 14:52 (Ref:1462318)

Not that I'm aware of. AFAIK the only touchy nerve I have is the one that detects lack of beer in the fridge. Just don't even think about going there

Eddy V · 16 Nov 2005, 17:28 (Ref:1462407)

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Originally Posted by dtype38

Oh I wouldn't go taking anything like that personally Eddy.

Not to worry, I didn't do that. That is why I put

in.

I know that those **##"" do their evil thing there.
But sometimes age gets the better of me (senile O F)

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Originally Posted by dtype38

I'm sure people from Brussels are mostly very nice

Are you sure? I've never seen a nice Brussels native.

**dtype38** · 16 Nov 2005, 17:33 (Ref:1462414)

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Originally Posted by Eddy V

Are you sure? I've never seen a nice Brussels native.

I'm not sure that I've even met one! I was just working on the basis that if they were all horrible, they'd never get on with each other well enough to form relationships. So they'd never get as far as a bit of nooky, which would mean that in a generation or two there wouldn't be anyone from Brussels.

Eddy V · 16 Nov 2005, 17:36 (Ref:1462418)

Now that is something to look out for. No more people from Brussels.

midgetman · 16 Nov 2005, 17:41 (Ref:1462423)

Ian

>>>>>>>>>>>>i thought you said earlier you wanted an international licence?

I've got a National A and race in Europe in "NEAFP" status events. National medicals apply with it too.

R59 · 16 Nov 2005, 19:18 (Ref:1462503)

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Originally Posted by Eddy V

Good that I'm not from Brussels.

Eddy, you know the main thing is the idiots "in" Brussels are not "from" Brussels, but are waifs and strays from all of our countries who dumped their rubbish politicians "out of harms way", only to find that they bit back with tons and tons (sorry, metric... tonnes and tonnes) of rubbish regulations that most of the EU ignore, but we British, sticklers for rules, follow to the letter.

They used to take the mickey out of the Germans for following orders without question, but it should really be British bureaucrats in the "how many... to change a lightbulb" joke.

In my experience, I have never met anyone from any country that I did not like. Especially those who buy the beers! (I found the Austrians very generous in that respect!! - and with Eddy and his crate of Hoegaarden on Saturday, that could easily change!! (subject to the weather as I'll have my 9 month old son with me!))

Rob.

Eddy V · 16 Nov 2005, 20:47 (Ref:1462610)

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Originally Posted by racing59

In my experience, I have never met anyone from any country that I did not like.......and with Eddy and his crate of Hoegaarden on Saturday, that could easily change!!

Ah. but you haven't met ME yet Rob.

Hoegie? What Hoegie?

Ze onez eye jusz vinishedd.....

TEAM78 · 17 Nov 2005, 03:23 (Ref:1462873)

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Originally Posted by racing59

In my experience, I have never met anyone from any country that I did not like. Especially those who buy the beers!

Rob.

Where you been?

(Only joking)
People who buy beers are bound to be nice, if only I could find someone who would..

**dtype38** · 17 Nov 2005, 15:35 (Ref:1463253)

It's always nice when a thread wanders onto my favorite subject....

Now if only I could persuade my doctor that it has theraputic values, then race meetings would be even more fun.....

Peter Horsman · 16 Mar 2006, 10:05 (Ref:1550137)

Going testing on Friday (tomorrow), so sent my licence application off last Thursday complete with extra £35-odd for a 72 hour turnaround. Nothing. Phoned them and told that because TUE application (for entirely routine asthma), they say that they cannot guarantee anything other than their 44 day (or whatever) turnround!!!!!!!! They have to send it off to a consultant for vetting which is the procedure.

The points are, one how absurdly stupid that the FIA force the MSA into this nonsense (and what are our FIA reps doing about this?), two, the MSA should warn us that the TUE 44 day waiting overrides the 72 hour payment premium, and thridly, you are warned that there will be a delay for all TUE applicants as apparently they cannot issue a licence without the TUE if it has been applied for with the licence application.

I've got around it by withdrawing my TUE application, which I shall make as soon as I have rec'd my licence. I won't be doing any FIA Int'l events before summer anyway.

This is not a rant against the MSA Licence dept, who are, as usual in my experience, being very helpful in the circumstance they find themselves in.