Track Renovations

[mandretti39]

We have all done this: Taken a current track and edit it to our liking. Well, this is a similar idea. I am using http://ellis.v12racing.net/racingcir...acingcircuits/ (racingcircuits.net) and finding old, unused tracks, staring with the USA, and am modifying them for a more modern feel. Just like at racingcircuits.net, all you will see is the track diagram, no paddock, no grandstands, and no safety features. Granted, the tracks would have these features, but they will not be shown.

First off is a track in Pennsylvania in Berwick. The original track was 1 mile long and ran in a clockwise direction. Here it is:



Boring, eh?

Here is my attempt to modernize it.



As you can see, the track now has some more personality. The track now has a pit road. The main straight has been legthened and straightened out. Most of the original track is still there, it's just been resurfaced and widened for major motorsport series. At the beginning of the lap, there is a Portland-inspired Festival Curves. You will also notice one of the new infield sections resembles Zandvoort. I have included it because I want to pay homage to whoever designed that section because I find it a challenging peice of track. (I have yet to cleanly make it through this section in any of the TOCA Race Driver games, thus it could be challenging for the drivers). As for the overall appearance, I realize it resembles a swan, or any other aviary creature, it was purely coincidental. The gray marks is where the short circuit runs.

What do you think? Should I do more? Any requests? All requests must be of tracks no longer in use and MUST be a raod course.

[shambles]

I like this idea Mandretti, I will do one myself. I've done a few in the past, but not really liked them. I will see what I can come up with.

As for your edit there, I think there are too many tight turns on it.

[Yannick]

I have to agree with martin-1. The tight turns deliver what people call 'stop-start-nature' on this board.
But the blot shape of your edit is very nice.
If the turns in the infield finger on the left were wider and the central infield section, too, the track would improve considerably.

[V8_TURBO]

Yeah some of the turns are way to tight.

[formula1fan]

It seems like a stop-start track to me: lots of heavy braking!

[Rockmunky]

There's my shot.

[V8_TURBO]

I like your edit Rockmunky.

[Flaming_Wuzzle]

Originally Posted by V8_TURBO

I like your edit Rockmunky.

How is that an edit? That's designing a new track that's vaguely in the shape of the old and plonking it on top.

[shambles]

You could say the same about the original...

It is an edit, because it's taking the design - and making an interpretation, however extensive.

[Yannick]

Rockmunky, that's a nice edit. It has kind of a 'tribal' shape, which is rare among tracks that flow well. The 'chicane' at the beginning of the start-finish straight reminds me of the Casino turn that used to be part of Montreal's Ile de Notre Dame circuit.

[shambles]

This is my edit of Berwick, some would say I've 'Tilkified' it but as I quite like Tilke's work in certain doses, then I don't suppose that's too bad.

I've renamed the circuit, as the All-American Raceway.

The first thing I wanted to do was change it's orientation.

It is now a bisexual circuit.

(I'll pause for a laugh at this point)

...

I give up;

It is now of course, anti-clockwise rather than clockwise. I liked the corner I've called Gurney as a first corner, and as such plopped the S/F straight on the small straight prior to it. The exit of Gurney is now tighter than it would have been on the original circuit.

A similar tightening of a long corner, sees my next change to the circuit at Andretti - taking drivers onto a entirely new section of track; the infield.

Mears is a double apex left hander, which leads directly into a swooping downhill right at Foyt. The descent continues through Unser - reaching a Bettenhausen much like the old backstraight at the A1-ring, in terms of descent.

Bettenhausen is a great overtaking opportunity, which leads to a corner at Donohue, which drivers would always be tempted to take flat out - but perhaps couldn't execute that every lap.

The slight kink before Rahal, ascends steeply but then the circuit falls away again for Rahal itself (it is a blind entry) through Haas and around to Hornish.

The Rutherford Kink, is the original s/f straight - and the original grid markings remain. Again along this straight, the track inclines but at a lower rate of ascent as Donohue-Rahal.

Bear in mind that the infield section, would have 'cosmetically' enhanced inclines; declines in the style of Istanbul.

The final alteration, adds a tricky chicane at Sneva - which reminds me of the final chicane at Thruxton. The track narrows quite a bit into here - so only the brave driver can pass through here - but it is totally possible.
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[jab]

I'm going to have a go at this, and also the old Ford test track at Boreham:

http://ellis.v12racing.net/racingcir...d/Boreham.html

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Of martin-1's version... The first half of the circuit is devoid of overtaking places, but given it's sweeping nature it can just about get away with it.
What I would do though is depart the old circuit earlier on the exit from Andretti, arcing it more onto the straight that leads to Mears giving it a higher speed and then turn Mears into an open hairpin and overtaking chance.

That would give Mears and Bettenhaussen in the first half and Hornish and Sneva as the 2 overtaking points on the second half of the circuit.

[shambles]

Very much appreciate the comments Scots.

Although I do feel that the exit of Gurney, which would be preceded by the flat out left - into a braking zone, would be a great place for drivers to tuck up the inside there, as it is quite tight.

[jab]

OK, my turn

Berwick



I think it's a great layout to start with so I found it difficult choosing which bits to keep. It's sort of half Sandown, half long fast sweepers, which look fantastic

I've straightened the S/F straight, but kept turn 1, 80 (as in degrees), which is very reminiscent of the first corner at Sandown. I come off the original track at Sweeper, into The Bowl, with a little Sting in the tail at the end. Through "Fountain", retained from the original as well, I've added a tight-ish S, following it with a long-ish tight left. The tight corner that follows could be the scene of do-or-dies on the last lap. "Lakeside", which is now next to a fictional lake, has been extended, before Double and Triple. Double starts tight and eases on the exit, before Triple, a tight-ish triple apex corner to finish the lap

Boreham



Again, I've straightened the S/F straight, before the Montreal-esque Sierra (all the corners are named after Ford models, past and present). It's not as tight at turn 1 at Montreal, but should prove tricky at the start (although what you could do is move the S/F line and pits to the Scorpio Straight). The next corner, Lightening, hasn't changed, before a tight hairpin-y corner, Fiesta - good for overtaking if cars can follow the one in front out of Lightening. There is then a short run to Zetec, a tricky double right, before another short straight to Focus, an interesting left hander - not really a hairpin, but still quite tight. This provides a great opportunity for passing into Anglia, which then sets up the cars well onto the Scorpio Straight for a possible pass into the unchanged Escort. Then, there's a final kink leading on to the straight for another lap. Plenty of overtaking here

[shambles]

I like the Bowl/Sting section at Berwick James, that's nice. Lakeside is a cool corner, but it does somewhat stand out in that section - as I feel the corners around it don't provide much in way of anything.

Boreham is OK, not sure what I make of it compared to the original - but it's quite cool.

Here is an edit of Adria I did a while back;



I've tried to add a little variation in terms of corner style to the track, by re-routing it a little.

[jab]

I'm presuming you're referring to Double and Triple about Lakeside - I agree. I'll work on a solution - problem is how to get back to the S/F line

[jab]

Voila:



Tight hairpin for overtaking, followed by a Tilke-style triple-apex corner leading onto the start finish straight. Not a big fan of Hermann but the multi-apex corners he has effectively invented in F1 have worked a treat. Just don't overdo it and put them in every track...

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Adria is one of those tracks that you see in plan form and go "Nooo...there must be something better than that" but when you look to modify it, there really isn't that much you can do without virtually starting from scratch.

At least not that I can see.

[mandretti39]

This is a track in Carlsbad, CA. It is 1.2 miles long and runs counterclockwise.



My track:



The track looks confusing, eh?

It has multiple layouts, one of which resembles, coincidently, the Rio oval ChampCar used to run.

The GP circuit:



The short (or oval) circuit:



Finally, the club circuit:



While the rest of the citrcuits run counterclockwise, the club circuit runs clockwise.

What do you think?

[Lustigson]

Originally Posted by martin-1

I've renamed the circuit, as the All-American Raceway.

Great track, dude. Very nice.