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Some really good points made there, but I often think sportscar fans are at their worse when they make constant comparisons to F1.
It's obvious we prefer it, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. Personally, I like how much Le Mans and F1 contrast. Le Mans is completely its own universe. I love the paradox of it being one of the most famous sporting events in the world while also somehow being a secret that no one really knows about, and hearing about people being blown away after their first visit. |
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Unreliability breeds unpredictability and that is where Le Mans shines. Racing should be unpredictable
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And speaking of newbies being blown away, my brother-in-law, who has no interest in motor racing, came back for a third time this year. He was as surprised as I was. |
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I think people compare it to F1, because everybody knows what F1 is, and whether we like it or not, F1 is the top motorsport in the world for audience, visibility, etc.
But I do think series should learn from each other. There's a lot that F1 can learn from Le Mans. But then again, Le Mans should learn how to make a decent bloody website from everyone else, because the WEC site is a disaster. They can all learn from each other. |
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And while they're at it, how about proper position indicators rather than just leader lights?
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With something to help identify the driver?
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I think your suggestion would be enough. If you're interested enough to want to know then this gives you the opportunity to easily find out. You'd just need the website, spotters guide or race programme to tell you.
During a 24 hour race and the practice before you'd get to learn it for the cars that you care for. You could go the whole hog and have some system that showed the drivers name, but I'm not too fussed. Give me the opportunity to tell. |
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Well since we're on a roll and this topic had an article about what F1 car learn from Le Mans, how about what Le Mans can learn from everywhere else? From a fan point of view - trackside, and home viewing
Number position panels (Blancpain/IMSA) A website that works (Every other series) A stream that works (Every other series) Current driver lights (Does anything have that?) A commentary team provided by RLM (IMSA, VLN, ELMS) |
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These are not really lessons from other series, but here are a few.
At track. More facilities and less queues for beer and food. At home. Better timing that shows sectors and other information from the official source. And reliability as you say. Unofficial timing was better than official! At home. Ability to have no commentary on the official feed, just race track sounds. I'm not bothered about having to buy separate coverage when I have the fee for it. At track. Kangaroo again. Or the ability to offer 4G to 200,000 people at once! Generally the ability to watch is pretty good at the track and after this year at home I can say it was pretty good at home. Can always improve though... |
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Rather than stare at a small lump of plastic try looking at that black ribbon of tarmac, big screens also help, not sure why anyone travels hundreds of miles to watch a race only to try and follow it on their phone, the addiction of those things is a curse of the modern world, Andrew you used to enjoy the race before you had them and you seem to enjoy it less now. Solution is obvious
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Exactly so. And Le Mans gives you the time to have your cake and eat it.
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Well as you have already said your o2 connection meant it did not work very well and yet you enjoyed the race even more, the amount of people i saw staring at phones is no different at le mans to the actual world, oblivious to everything around them, what a way to exist.
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Ah, but it's all a case of staying connected Simon, still a reasonably new concept and one which we'll undoubtedly hear a great deal more of over the next few years at Le Mans and elsewhere.....
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Perhaps but the thought of 260,000 people all starring at phones while the race in front of them is ignored is a horrid idea, yes use the info only when you need it, and if you look up from your phone sometime Andrew and look at most of the younger generation around you, then you will see what a horrid addiction the modern phone is.
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I don't disagree Simon, I see it all the time too. But the modern phone is such a useful device - I even left my video camera at home this year as my phone takes better quality video!
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You're clearly a lot more disciplined than me! Having said that, I ditched my old video camera this year because my iPhone takes far better video. Because that's so handy, I took a lot of video which has cut down on the number of photos I took with my SLR - as did the heat, because we spent more time in grandstands for the shade where we would otherwise have been walking around the circuit a lot more. (We still walked plenty but my 'mileage' was down on last year!).
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On a similar note to comments about "watching through the camera lens", it is often too easy (especially if there is 'weather') to just sit in the grandstand and watch the race on the big tv screen above the pits, rather than walking around the track and seeing the action up close.
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