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Open LM to gt3 and all BES, ADAC, GT300, PWC, GT-OPEN (and series I can't remember or even know at all) teams will be attracted |
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That would at least be a nice problem to have, as opposed to the ACO's current problem of keeping manufacturers in the series for more than a few seasons at a time. Personally I'd solve this dilemma by making the 30 Le Mans GT entries factory/pro only, running GT3s under their OEM name. I do appreciate that there is a long history of amateur entries at Le Mans and that this suggestion thus blithely does away with something others may consider an important part of the tradition of the event. |
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Am I wrong in thinking that GT3 cars being far cheaper than GTE (at least to buy) is something of a fallacy? It seems to me that if there were more places to run a GTE then the cost of an RSR would be much less than the €900,000 it is now. I think Porsche have received something like 70 orders for the new GT3R. If the order book was limited to 12-ish like the RSR is, that car would cost way more than €459,000. The GT3 would still be a bit cheaper, though running costs are another matter.
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Brendon Hartley is coming back to where he belongs, sports cars. Taking over Button's spot at SMP for the next two rounds:
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...turn-with-smp/ |
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guess that gt3 engines, sharing most of the parts with the street unit, are cheaper and have a longer lifespan before the rebuild, while GTE engines have more expensive racing parts and a shorter lifespan.
Recall a 2009 or 2010 R8 that made both ring 24H and spa 24H with the same engine. Guess suspensions and gearbox too are more expensive for GTLM car. GT3 gearbox is quite a standardized part, having fixed ratios |
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Again, I do despise GT3 (although not as much as todays GTE) however at least with this you could also go away with the sub am-class nannying |
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Problem is this isn't the Group C days where there were enough cars that GT cars weren't needed (though I think that the ACO and FIA pressed for the all prototype fields back then). Also, fields were limited to 48 cars back then, which has gone up since 2005 incrementally to the current 60 cars.
IMO, about a 50-50 split between prototypes and GTs would be ideal, but I'm not sure if that's achievable today, especially without the pro-am classes. |
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It's already 50-50 by seemingly mandated enforcing, which I don't really agree with, but anyway if they did axe GT(E)-AM and also morph P2 (back) into free-for-all class, I don't see why you couldn't have the same percentage as today. |
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I think Ayse is just saying what he’d prefer.
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If you allowed LMP3 in the big show and went back to the fastest x cars you would fill up the field with prototypes instantly. |
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Grid consisting solely of P1, P2 and P3 would be fine with me. P3 field would have to be capped to max. 10 cars though and you could only enter it by winning the regional series or if ACO reserved 1 slot for each chassis manufacturer and your entry was allocated int this criteria.
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I'd rather some GT's than p3's. No need for ANOTHER class that all sound the exact same. Then we'll get commentators who can't tell the difference and think one of them is an lmp1 crashing or something.
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Or you have LMGTP LMP1(NH) LMP2 LMP3 So technically there would still be that GT aesthetic present... |
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This would make an excellent stand-alone "design your own series" thread. I'm enjoying reading this.
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I think the Le Mans 24 was prototype only through the 80's and up to 1992. GT only came back in 1993 after the 1992 race had just 25 cars.
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GTE does appear to have a future though at Le Mans considering the Corvette C8 and the Brabham coming with new cars. Predict that Porsche is going to stick around with the 911 RSR too. Maybe a new generation of that to come. Aston and Ferrari could be moving to the hypercars. |
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I am indeed. And frankly, the answer to Dyson Mazda's question is Yes.
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