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27 Jun 2020, 11:47 (Ref:3984193) | #1 | |||
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Aero wash worse than ever
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Seems like the ~15% reduction in downforce has been a complete flop. Why wasn't a more ambitious downforce reduction set, taking off 100-150kg of downforce or more? Lots of people were saying why just take off 50 kg (from the former 350kgf @ 200 km/hr) and that it wouldn't be enough. Quote:
What a screwup! They had the chance to make some big changes -- to get rid of the oversized rear wing endplates and bootlid extensions on both cars completely, but they didn't do it. Doesn't make sense. |
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27 Jun 2020, 19:40 (Ref:3984250) | #2 | |
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Yeah the -15% didn't seem to help did it? Here's a thought though - why not change it now?
*Last season set a heavy precedent in regards to "in-season" changes... *Lots of sprint races this year *Any knowledge gained now will help development of Gen3 This year is already...messy. Let's sort this significant problem out now on move on |
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27 Jun 2020, 21:13 (Ref:3984268) | #3 | ||
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Always has been and still is now very difficult (read impossible) to accurately predict the aero wash impact of following other cars, other than by actually going racing.
If it is in fact worse or at the least not as good as hoped, then some running changes could be made, based off data collected during races. The impact of the virus on budgets might be an argument used against making in-season changes though. We'll see how it plays out but 15% was always flagged as the first step with more to come - be good if more could come sooner rather than later. |
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28 Jun 2020, 04:48 (Ref:3984289) | #4 | ||
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Having just watched the 1st Sunday race from SMP, I have to say "aero wash, shmaero wash".
That race shows that there is way more than aero at play when it comes to good racing and passing. I do expect though, that it is a case of a new format and other restrictions shaking up the order - once the teams get their head around it, normal service is likely to be resumed and aero may become a focus point again. |
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28 Jun 2020, 06:52 (Ref:3984290) | #5 | |
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I think not handing out enough Dunlop's had a HUGE impact on overtaking opportunities.
Personally I view it the same as DRS - artificial and not what I mean when I say I want to see more overtaking. |
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28 Jun 2020, 08:18 (Ref:3984298) | #6 | ||
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Aerowash, more like hogwash. The racing was better this weekend than we have seen for ages in the long race , refueling era. Sensible format at last!
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Doesn't it seem a little contrived to you guys when Percat dominates Whincup AND Scotty?
Of course there was overtaking - they were on totally different tires! |
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Exactly - except for you getting the spelling of "tyres" wrong. |
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28 Jun 2020, 21:59 (Ref:3984398) | #11 | ||
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I think someone said, around the time of the parity tests, that they wanted to do that before the start of the season, but the cost of completely new aero kits was to much. So they went with a reduction and a plan for more later. |
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29 Jun 2020, 11:56 (Ref:3984474) | #12 | ||
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Put all the eggs in 1 basket. WHo cares, same allocation just on how they manage it right !!!!
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29 Jun 2020, 19:42 (Ref:3984555) | #13 | ||
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It does seem popular though, really "mixes things up!". Maybe reverse grids next - everyone has to deal with the same thing, right? |
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Remember, they gave everyone more tires last year (which was well received). Ostensibly they've reduced numbers this year for financial reasons, not to aid the racing |
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