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20 Aug 2021, 13:34 (Ref:4068075) | #7976 | ||
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I guess it's going smell a bit different trackside.
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20 Aug 2021, 13:59 (Ref:4068081) | #7977 | ||
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I guess 'raising a glass' to the victors will have that little bit more relevance......
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21 Aug 2021, 04:11 (Ref:4068191) | #7978 | ||
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21 Aug 2021, 13:11 (Ref:4068291) | #7979 | ||
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The solution is simple and obvious. A spec LMP2 class is as much out of place in World Endurance Championship as Formula 2 would be. Nix it.
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23 Aug 2021, 09:29 (Ref:4069934) | #7980 | ||
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I think the Hypercar class is fast enough in a straight line. I would (personally) suggest that they be allowed to lower the car(s) by say 10mm and lose 20-50kg of weight in order to further distinguish them from the LMP2 class. Both of these measures surely wouldn't cost the teams much to carry out, assuming it wouldn't require a suspension re-design.
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23 Aug 2021, 10:07 (Ref:4069949) | #7981 | ||
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Not for me, I couldn't disagree more. Right now, anyway. But then I'm an LMP2 fan because they just provide great racing.
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They've been suspiciously quiet on power though, so personally I'd bump power up to 550kW and leave it there. ~740hp is hardly a massive leap from where the cars are currently, and it will help with accelerating past traffic. |
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23 Aug 2021, 10:16 (Ref:4069956) | #7983 | |||
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I understand what you are saying about the weight issue, although knowing what the ACO have proposed (a BOP system) surely you would design a car that allows a weight increase and reduction with relative ease? Everyone by now knows how BOP formulas work, so why design a car that can't adhere? Increasing and losing weight is part and parcel of a lot of series now, so i'm surprised if this can't be achieved. |
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23 Aug 2021, 10:28 (Ref:4069960) | #7984 | |
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drop off 50kg from the night to the next day may be quite unrealistic but if ACO will decide a 50kg cut after last race to bring min. weight to about 1000kg for 2022 season, toyota and glickenhaus will have about 4 months to find a new suspensions setting and ballast reposition. I'm not a TMG or podium engineer but I don't find that so unlikely to achieve.
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23 Aug 2021, 13:34 (Ref:4069991) | #7986 | ||
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If any change were to take place you would surely need to give teams 6+ months notice etc, or do it at the end of the season.
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23 Aug 2021, 15:12 (Ref:4070009) | #7987 | ||
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24 Aug 2021, 02:10 (Ref:4070066) | #7988 | |||
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I have feeling a small power bump from ACO would not only be possible, but also welcomed by the LMH teams. But then there's the LMDh part of the equation... |
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24 Aug 2021, 08:52 (Ref:4070091) | #7989 | ||
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The thing is, if the ACO want teams or car makers to invest in LMH machinery, there needs to be a distinction between LMP2 and LMH. The likes of BMW, Audi, Ferrari aren’t going to be happy if their new LMH car which has undoubtedly cost thousands to produce is then beaten by a LMP2 car. Granted I actually liked the fact that an LMP2 car almost won lemans a few years back but that was a result of the leaders having trouble, I think on pure pace a LMH car should be at least 5-6 seconds faster over an average lap and maybe 10 seconds faster at lemans.
If I were controlling the regs I would make LMH; - 30kg lighter - 10mm lower ride height - +50bhp Last edited by Sodemo; 24 Aug 2021 at 08:58. |
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I agree with the changes though, particularly more power. I still have my doubts about lowering weight, unfortunately. |
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24 Aug 2021, 10:07 (Ref:4070098) | #7991 | ||
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What do the LMH cars have under the floor, is it just a flat bottom or do they have some kind of aero tunnel system?
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24 Aug 2021, 11:59 (Ref:4070116) | #7993 | |
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And keep in mind the LMDh cars will be developing the new LMP2 cars and know they have to be slower. It will be interesting to see what they add to the LMDh base chassis to make them LMP2 in a few years
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24 Aug 2021, 14:48 (Ref:4070141) | #7994 | |
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The next-gen LMP2 that is slower should solve the inter-class speed difference issue.
And making LMH faster means LMDh needs to match it. |
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The Cadillac render released with their LMDH announcement this morning (though far from a final, completed car) shows that the LMH aero regs will apply to LMDH, which means that aside from the 2 inch tall/1000mm wide lip in the splitter of the front diffuser, underbody aero is largely free, as on the Toyota and the Glickenhaus. LMP2 may just be like the current cars with the bodywork having to fit in a 2000mm wide x4750 or 4900mm long box, with the same basic current aero package evolved to fit (ie, quasi spec underfloor with some freedom in the design of the front diffuser). |
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The name at the bottom of the image is Chris Mikalauskas, who is a road car designer at Cadillac. Just to remind, this is what the Peugeot Hypercar looked like when they were at the same stage Cadillac is now. Yes, that's a rear wing. Basically don't read to much into this, other than that GM needed a picture to go with the press release and had literally nothing of any substance to share. |
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24 Aug 2021, 20:17 (Ref:4070213) | #7998 | ||
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Hmmmm...
I'm more interested in the engine/fuel equation of LMH/LMDh, than anything else. The new mandate of 100% E-based fuels for endurance racing could be quite an interesting one. The only motorsport that has been down this road is one that has done so for more than 70+ years: Indycar. A good number of those running teams in IMSA are also running Indycar teams, with vast experience in handling and utilizing ethanol-based engines, including Ganassi racing. Don't be surprised if you see a few wins by GM(Cadillac) and Honda(Acura), just as IMSA changes over to Ethanol-based fuel. |
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I'm reasonably sure those fins are supposed to be angled along the length of the car and not the width and it looks wrong because the leading edge of where they kink back back is misplaced on one side and the shading is weird. Strange tail lights though.
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