What to do with a Slow Driver? - Page 3

jonathanc · 24 Jun 2003, 15:16 (Ref:641541)

One simple rule would be look out for the yellow/black cross and assume they cant see you.

jonathanc · 24 Jun 2003, 15:16 (Ref:641540)

One simple rule would be look out for the yellow/black cross and assume they cant see you.

Bostik · 24 Jun 2003, 16:10 (Ref:641582)

Not so simple - for example, the rookie driver that was the subject of this debate was at Brands coming down from Druids and into Graham Hill Bend - and a pack of four cars came up swiftly behind him - so he braked mid-corner on the racing line - they just went round him, over him, through him, etc and this was happening all through the race. The problem is that the guy at the back of the pack is unsighted and this all makes for some heartstopping moments. In the first race the poor chap was lapped by 17 cars 4 times, by 4 cars 3 times, by 1 car twice and by one car once. His very best lap was 10 seconds off the pace.
I wonder if he actually enjoyed being mugged 83 times in one race!

PenelopePitstop · 24 Jun 2003, 16:14 (Ref:641587)

I did a 2 driver Enduro race at Silverstone this weekend and we got lapped 4 times, so I speak with experiance. There was a chap at Abbey on the way out of the hairpin, who seemed to have Blue flag waving down to an art. If it was obvious that I had seen a car no flag, if it was not obvious Blue Flag, if there were multiple cars passing waved blue flag & if I was being engulfed by cars on all sides the guy waved the flag so hard I thought he would dislocate his arm sockets. Maybe we should find him I get him to compile a training video.

**Woolley** · 24 Jun 2003, 23:35 (Ref:642118)

That's how it's supposed to be done. We don't always get it right (It's much harder than it looks) but the intention is there (no it wasn't me at Silverstone, so I'm not claiming it!). More to the point, it's very nice to hear the feedback that says you're noticing the differences when racing, because it's not easy to be sure from our side if what we think is a clear signal really is.

**ghinzani** · 25 Jun 2003, 07:33 (Ref:642306)

we had this bloke in the Porsches who was way slow like that and in the end we were going to tell him to eff off but he had the decency to roll it at paddock in the nick of time!

Bob Pearson · 25 Jun 2003, 07:41 (Ref:642315)

Ghinzani, was telling him to eff off the best you could manage between you all? Could none of you run to offering some advice?

DAVID PATERSON · 25 Jun 2003, 08:05 (Ref:642345)

Too right Bob!

Ghinzani, at the top level of the sport we need to weed out the "just not up to its" but at club level, the more the merrier, everyone's welcome i say, talented or not, if they're obeying the rules and having fun, they''ve got just as much right to be there as you have.

**ghinzani** · 25 Jun 2003, 17:07 (Ref:642831)

No seriously people tried, he did'nt have the balls for it then the turbo caught him out, he got sideways , hit the kerbs and rolled off into oblivion. Still he could tell his mates he'd had to give up racing due to a huge smash. Surely some of you Brands regulars remember the car? I think it was brown - back in the early 90s in the Pirelli startup series IIRC.

terje · 25 Jun 2003, 19:04 (Ref:642967)

At the world karting champs in Genk a few years ago they introduced a rule where if you were about to be lapped you received what was the equivalent of a black flag so that you didn't interfere with the leaders.

ss_collins · 25 Jun 2003, 19:43 (Ref:643004)

yeah but this ain't top flight karting - and I hope it never get like any form of karting as I rarley see a 100% freindly meeting.

FilW · 25 Jun 2003, 21:04 (Ref:643091)

With reference to moving off line when being lapped surely the positon on the track and how much warning the lapped driver had would dictate, to a certain extent, what he would do? I am a very new racer and have had the pleasure? of being lapped on a number of occasions. If I see blue flags & faster cars coming up behind me on a straight I'll lift slightly and let them go round, as advised by the COC at Donington when I asked him. If they catch me mid corner then it's up to them to decide what to do, I drive my car as fast as I can and consider myself to be as 'committed' any other driver. I try and drive to the limit of my cars ability and mine (mostly mine) and would not want to unbalance the car mid corner by trying to lift or change line. Sliding sideways into the leader would not go down well

There doesn't seem to be a concensus of opinion here but I hope that some of the experianced drivers just go and see how the new boy is doing and offer him some help or advice if he needs it. He is almost definately s**tting himself!!

DAVID PATERSON · 26 Jun 2003, 02:10 (Ref:643299)

Fil, you've made agood point here, if you're watching the mirrors and see the quick guy before he gets to you, you set yourself up for him to go by quickly, easily and safely, by choosing where to place your car, rolling off the throttle and indicating to him what side you want him to pass on.

If however, he's on top of you before you see him, then it's best to just stay where you are and don't move from one side to another.

terje · 26 Jun 2003, 08:41 (Ref:643454)

Quote:

Originally posted by ss_collins
yeah but this ain't top flight karting - and I hope it never get like any form of karting as I rarley see a 100% freindly meeting.

And you think that car meetings are 100% friendly??!

Bob Pearson · 26 Jun 2003, 09:10 (Ref:643475)

terje, your not meant to count some of the parents in the equation.

ss_collins · 26 Jun 2003, 11:33 (Ref:643613)

I've been to lots of 100% freindly car meetings - I've never been to a kart race that hasn't had at least a chunk of acrimony.

chezza · 26 Jun 2003, 12:39 (Ref:643690)

I've seen lots meetings that are 100% friendly...ok there is rivaly going on but it always friendly doesn't usually get nasty!

terje · 26 Jun 2003, 13:29 (Ref:643724)

Karting only gets heated because the racing is so close, unlike other forms of motorsport! Anyway i think we're missing the point of this thread!!

**Stephen Green** · 26 Jun 2003, 13:49 (Ref:643740)

I disagree...anyway, let's get back to the thread topic.

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