Porsche - New Era about to begin ?

porsche91722 · 23 Jul 2009, 19:57 (Ref:2506799)

With Weideking gone, are we looking at a new era with Porsche about to return to a golden era. Will the P1 now be ramped up. It has got to be a more positive outlook for any future developments at Porsche motorsport. If so, would the Porsche and Audi divisions be able to both run side by side in competition? Interesting times ahead.

ARTRACER1 · 23 Jul 2009, 22:18 (Ref:2506895)

well unless Porsche are pulling money out of a large rear facing body cavity, then I would not hold my breath. Right now, there are debts to be paid and money to be found. VW and the shareholders will ease into this deal rather than just go in Blitzgrieg style. What ever Weissach are working on in the secret elf shop, will no doubt continue. At the end of the day, all companies want to make a profit. IF Porsche, under new ownership, DO in fact produce the much wished for super P1 car, then it will run against anything and everything, even if it is a cousin (Audi) from the same stable. Both marque's have their own demographics, and even with some crossover here and there, it's still a win win for VW AG. Unlike last October, when das boot was on the other foot, and certain behind the scenes events at board level, affected the entire Audi race programme. it will be as they say, veeerrrry inteeerrrresting!

**Adam43** · 23 Jul 2009, 22:24 (Ref:2506899)

Quick build a 4x4 or 4 door car

ARTRACER1 · 23 Jul 2009, 22:34 (Ref:2506913)

I thought I saw the sacrilege of a Porsche sedan already? The Q7 Audi is based on a Cayenne/Tourag as it is. Criminy, there is soooooo much incest in the car business !!!!

tux1234 · 23 Jul 2009, 23:31 (Ref:2506930)

As long as this era involves Porsche continuing Gt racing and entering a car in the top class at le mans then i cant wait!

1969MGCGTdriver · 24 Jul 2009, 03:01 (Ref:2506952)

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Originally Posted by ARTRACER1

I thought I saw the sacrilege of a Porsche sedan already? The Q7 Audi is based on a Cayenne/Tourag as it is. Criminy, there is soooooo much incest in the car business !!!!

Funny thing is, the Cayanne is the ugliest of the 3...

with that being said I'd love to have a Cayman S

Dario911 · 24 Jul 2009, 08:03 (Ref:2507012)

I think Porsche would come back in P1 with Penske Racing. It's long time voices about Roger involvements have been taken by the strong wind!
Penske was interested to Audi R15 when Porsche P1 program was being aborted. But now... things are going to change!

Spyderman · 24 Jul 2009, 08:53 (Ref:2507031)

I, on the other hand, am not at all optimistic.

Mal · 24 Jul 2009, 10:01 (Ref:2507056)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

I, on the other hand, am not at all optimistic.

I think the most that will happen in the next year or so will be a few more outings for the R15 - But I would hope that long term as recovery kicks in and debts are paid off then things may improve

The VAG groups brands could almost single handedly make sportscar racing a great place to be again using a few brands in various classess for less than the cost one season in F1 with one brand!

The Badger · 24 Jul 2009, 11:06 (Ref:2507081)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

I, on the other hand, am not at all optimistic.

Yeah , I agree . I just hope the 997 customer support programe stands up to the battle axe .

Mal · 24 Jul 2009, 12:37 (Ref:2507128)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Yeah , I agree . I just hope the 997 customer support programe stands up to the battle axe .

It should do as I suspect it is profitable

GrayWolf · 24 Jul 2009, 13:02 (Ref:2507145)

In a year or two Porsche will enter P1 and things will be like "BEHOLD! ! !

GTfour · 24 Jul 2009, 16:27 (Ref:2507234)

Chances for a P1 entry by the factory have only increased now Wiedeking has left. It was he who put the '99 prototype to sleep and him also who said that under his supervision,Porsche would only race cars that would make a profit by selling them to customers.

Protoype's only cost money.(at least in the first few years)

Dario911 · 24 Jul 2009, 18:00 (Ref:2507272)

We don't have to forget Piech is the man designed 908, 909 and 917...
I think he's a racer inside, and so he will show us a great return of the Porsche in Le Mans, in 2011. I'm pretty sure about this!

johntt · 24 Jul 2009, 19:03 (Ref:2507294)

I think we'll se a Porsche P1 in time for 2011, and a substantially reworked RS Spyder to take advantage of the 2011 P2 rules, all they need to do is keep the chassis and rework the engine bay to accomodate the engine from the GT2 car.

Danny_GT2 · 24 Jul 2009, 22:07 (Ref:2507377)

Can't wait to see Porsche LMP1 @ either Seca or Petit Le Mans!

cmk · 24 Jul 2009, 22:37 (Ref:2507390)

Can't wait? Like you'll die if you have to? Be sure to make the invite cards for your funeral then...no way this year, unlikely in 2010, beyond that, well, that's a long way off isn't it?!

MJ_N_09 · 24 Jul 2009, 22:58 (Ref:2507404)

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Originally Posted by 1969MGCGTdriver

Funny thing is, the Cayanne is the ugliest of the 3...

with that being said I'd love to have a Cayman S

There's also the Panarama......oh god.

Trust me, that car looks horrible.

HORNDAWG · 25 Jul 2009, 00:58 (Ref:2507442)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Can't wait? Like you'll die if you have to? Be sure to make the invite cards for your funeral then...no way this year, unlikely in 2010, beyond that, well, that's a long way off isn't it?!

I would agree. And will VAG race against itself? Will we see a Porsche P-1? That is a long way off.

L.P.

chewymonster · 25 Jul 2009, 06:20 (Ref:2507484)

Having Audi and Porsche race against each other factory style doesn't make any more sense now than it did before.

andy97 · 25 Jul 2009, 06:45 (Ref:2507485)

Porsche have always supported their "heritage" models, too, so its straightforward to get parts for older cars to keep them running & even racing. Audi talks about its heritage but does absolutely nothing to support its Ur quattro line & deletes spares hand over fist. If it insists in the same attitude at Porsche then a lot of historic racers are going to be disappointed.

johntt · 25 Jul 2009, 07:57 (Ref:2507499)

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Originally Posted by chewymonster

Having Audi and Porsche race against each other factory style doesn't make any more sense now than it did before.

Audi are pushing the TDI technology in P1 as their philosophy, Porsche could make a P1 car with a different philosophy (hybrid? a cost-efffective customer car a la 956?)

**joeb** · 25 Jul 2009, 11:49 (Ref:2507588)

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Originally Posted by andy97

Porsche have always supported their "heritage" models, too, so its straightforward to get parts for older cars to keep them running & even racing. Audi talks about its heritage but does absolutely nothing to support its Ur quattro line & deletes spares hand over fist. If it insists in the same attitude at Porsche then a lot of historic racers are going to be disappointed.

Oddly enough there was a R10 running around Road America last weekend at the vintage races. I was unaware that any private owners held one of those, let alone ran it!

Macross · 25 Jul 2009, 13:41 (Ref:2507680)

I remember there was rumour on the internet said the Porsche is going to enter FIA GT 2011 with a new GT1 car, which is based on successor to the Carrera GT. This month's Motor magazine also mentioned this.

I hope its truth, i'm a big fan of 911 gt1...

Zurbert82 · 27 Jul 2009, 17:24 (Ref:2509347)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Oddly enough there was a R10 running around Road America last weekend at the vintage races. I was unaware that any private owners held one of those, let alone ran it!

You sure that was an R10? Looks like it was actually an R8 in the 2006 Lime Rock livery http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyn57/3737723390/

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