Great rivalries of our time...

Mattracer · 24 Jun 2003, 23:53 (Ref:642127)

Brock/Moffat, Brock/Johnson, Brock/Grice, Bowe/Seton, Skaife/Seton, Lowndes/Skaife, Ambrose/Skaife. Murphy/Stewards.

Since the seventies, there have been some fierce rivalries. What are your thoughts? These are just some that come to mind.

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jun 2003, 00:07 (Ref:642133)

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Originally posted by Mattracer
Murphy/Stewards.

I think this one is the funniest.. I guess it might get a bit old if it happens at every meeting as it seems to now

Blu_butterfly17 · 25 Jun 2003, 00:10 (Ref:642135)

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Originally posted by Mattracer
Murphy/Stewards.

haha!! i think that one wins hands down!!

DAVID PATERSON · 25 Jun 2003, 02:18 (Ref:642172)

Bowe/Seton ?????????? Please do tell, it's news to me.

Skaife/Seton ??? Aren't they good mates?

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jun 2003, 02:34 (Ref:642179)

Bowe/Seton was a rivalry in '95 wasnt it, DJ didnt help with his "speed bump" remarks from previous years, but didnt Seton bump Bowe going across the top at Bathurst, causing the Shell shytbox to DNF??

They partnered each other in 1987 too didnt they??

RRR · 25 Jun 2003, 06:10 (Ref:642247)

Yes GTRMagic. Bowwe and Seton did wage a good war in '95, both on and off the track.
I'm not sure about the Seton/Skaife thing though. They were good mates and I foundly remember the pair racing down the back straight at Sandown waving at each other in '96. But I can't recall on-track battles worth of a mention.
You could put Murphy/Ingall from 1997 in the list. These two didn't mind bending panels or bruising egos ...
And what about Romano/Forbes. There's a story to tell the kids.
Maybe Thexton/105% ...

DAVID PATERSON · 25 Jun 2003, 07:31 (Ref:642302)

Romano/Forbes of course, that's a beauty.

They have so much in common.

rdmdog · 25 Jun 2003, 07:47 (Ref:642326)

Theres another War, as yet unresolved, maybe we should call it Afghanistan, The Forgotten War.

Seton VS Mount Panorama. Every year another battle is waged, a bit like David & Goliath, I guess, until now with Prodrive helping load the slingshot

rocket · 25 Jun 2003, 07:56 (Ref:642337)

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Originally posted by GTRMagic
but didnt Seton bump Bowe going across the top at Bathurst, causing the Shell shytbox to DNF??

he sure did coming out of the cutting, its the only time that i was glad seto didnt finish a race, i reckon it might even have been close to deliberate
at that time the shell cars wern't shytboxes & bowe was leading bathurst at the time of the incident, if the dunlops didnt pack it in so quick then seto wouldnt have got near them

**GTRMagic** · 25 Jun 2003, 09:43 (Ref:642425)

Bowe was sideways for the prior 15 laps thru there though, not saying it was deserved but you could see how something like that could happen

Barrie Worth · 25 Jun 2003, 12:17 (Ref:642572)

Ford / Holden

racer69 · 25 Jun 2003, 12:18 (Ref:642573)

Also the fact that they were totally off racing line at the time of the crash, with Bowe moving across.....

How about Allan Grice vs Frank Gardner
or Allan Grice vs John Trimbole
or Wayne Gardner vs Tom Walkinshaw

or how about Matt Neal vs what seems like all of Australia

Onlooker · 25 Jun 2003, 23:35 (Ref:643238)

Seto is not one to "punt" a driver off at Bathurst,he's way to smart for that caper."Captian Conservative" plays the numbers game and knows that involvement in an incident greatly swings the balance to the wrong side of the ledger.You rarely see him put a foot wrong and damage the car(although the last few years in the handleing wilderness has been a bit average)

With the exception of being pinged for failing to indicate whilst entering pit lane in the mid 90's (and co-incidently being hit by race leader Bowe as he limped in with a flat tyre)and no doubt the odd pit speeding fine this year I think you would really struggle to find any punishment doled out to GS ever!!

Mattracer · 26 Jun 2003, 03:20 (Ref:643329)

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I think you would really struggle to find any punishment doled out to GS ever!!

I'd pretty much agree there. I can't remember a blatant or deliberate act of thuggery on another driver really. About the only other major off he's had in recent memory apart from PI in a few years ago was the one at the top of the hill at Lakeside in '97 allowing others to close up a bit in the points.

Mattracer · 26 Jun 2003, 03:22 (Ref:643330)

Skaife and Seton fought out the '94 title so there was a bit of sting in that one, but not in any way nasty, just tough.

Dazz · 26 Jun 2003, 22:40 (Ref:644183)

More incidents than rivalries, but Longhurst vs Morris in the Super Tourers was pretty cool!

And Alan Jones and Skaifey at Simmons Plains just about coming to blows in the pits.

I think over the next few years the Skaife Ambrose rivalry could be the biggest we've had for a while. I think everyone thought that a Ford equipped Lowndes would have been Fords hero to take it up to Skaife, but so far Ambrose has been Fords golden boy and Skaife's single biggest challenger.

MattV · 26 Jun 2003, 22:59 (Ref:644189)

Murph V Bargs

Whilst probably more of a media beat up this would rank highly over the last two years.

**GTRMagic** · 26 Jun 2003, 23:35 (Ref:644205)

What about Tony Cochrane Vs Kelvin OReilly in the TOCA vs AVESCO days.... funny that they now allegedly work together, and that Kelvin is TC's boss!!

Tom Walkinshaw Vs any bank and/or court you care to mention??

RRR · 26 Jun 2003, 23:49 (Ref:644212)

Skaife and Seton fought out the '94 title so there was a bit of sting in that one, but not in any way nasty, just tough. – Mattracer
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I don't think you will find this true. Skaife blitzed the field in the first 3 rounds of the series, and remained consistent throughout the rest of the season to secure the championship well before the last round at Oran Park ...

Onlooker · 26 Jun 2003, 23:55 (Ref:644215)

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Originally posted by Mattracer
I'd pretty much agree there. I can't remember a blatant or deliberate act of thuggery on another driver really. About the only other major off he's had in recent memory apart from PI in a few years ago was the one at the top of the hill at Lakeside in '97 allowing others to close up a bit in the points.

And both those were accidents that were driver error and involved no other car,in fact there wasn't a car with in a bulls roar of him at the time,particually at PI when testing.Adelaide 2002 is another that was just a simple one car crash.

RRR · 27 Jun 2003, 01:05 (Ref:644246)

What about Gardner/Lowndes in '96. There little biff at Bathurst for the ATCC round was a bit of a classic ...

Actually, Gardner had a bit of a spell with just about everyone. Dick/Skaife/Tomas/Crompton('93 Wannaroo).

Morris 1100 · 27 Jun 2003, 06:40 (Ref:644374)

The best fights were a former Bathurst winner and his wife number 2!

Mark Webber · 27 Jun 2003, 09:54 (Ref:644553)

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Pls when did this happen ! it was more a team order .
and when clowndes went to Ford he has been buried to far back in the midfelid

Acj 428 · 27 Jun 2003, 13:30 (Ref:644756)

I reckon Murphy V Colin Bond.....Ding Ding round two....

mtpanorama · 28 Jun 2003, 05:20 (Ref:645274)

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Seton VS Mount Panorama.

I have never had a problem with Seton.

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