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12 Sep 2003, 22:29 (Ref:716990)
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Who are the top 10 touring car drivers of all time?
Get your thinking caps on guys and gals, i'd like to know who you think are the greastest touring car drivers of all time! Plenty to choose from, i know, but we all like a challenge don't we?
 
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12 Sep 2003, 23:01 (Ref:717006)
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Mind You I am rather thinking of Touring Car as we know it today- the history is long and storied, so i'll stick with the last couple of decades...
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12 Sep 2003, 23:08 (Ref:717012)
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and the next 5 are
Radisich thompson reid rydell muller I suppose we can list any number of drivers who have gone on to sportscars, Champcars, F1 or what have you but these are the ones i remember most.... V8 supertourers rule by the way |
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13 Sep 2003, 00:36 (Ref:717042)
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Juan Manuel Fangio (Chevrolet) Mike Hawthorn (Jaguar 3.4) Graham Hill (Austin A35) Stirling Moss (Standard 10) - Yes really! Once upon a time Jim Clark (Lotus Cortina) Daniel Sexton Gurney (Ford Galaxy) A C B Chapman (Jaguar 3.4) Jeff Uren (Ford Zephyr) Les Leston (Riley 1.50 - As in "Leston is passing Uren" )
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13 Sep 2003, 00:37 (Ref:717043)
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Mike Hawthorn (Jaguar Silverstone 1958) Jeff Uren (Ford Zephyr) Les Leston (Riley 1.50 - As in "Leston is passing Uren" )John Sprinzel (Austin A35) Stirling Moss (Standard 10) - Once upon a time |
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13 Sep 2003, 06:46 (Ref:717129)
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In no particular order;
Roberto Ravaglia Tom Walkinshaw Gerry Marshall Peter Brock Fabrizio Giovanardi Dirk Muller Laurent Aiello Marcus Ambrose Dieter Quester Andy Rouse list could go on and on.......Jorg Muller, Allan Grice, Mark Skaife, Steve Soper, Armin Hahne, James Thompson, Gabrielle Tarquini, Alain Menu, Win Percy...... |
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13 Sep 2003, 07:40 (Ref:717145)
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I was waiting for Andy Rouse to appear on someone's list.......
As someone who watched an awful lot of BTCC back in the mid 80's, Rouse definitely comes near the top of my list.... |
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13 Sep 2003, 08:08 (Ref:717165)
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Andy Rouse
Johnny Ceccotto Paul Radisich Alain Menu Ricard Rydell 'Smokin' Joachim Winkelhock Frank Biela Laurent Aiello Jim Clark Gabrielli Tarquini |
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13 Sep 2003, 09:32 (Ref:717203)
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Frank Gardner John Rhodes John Fitzpatrick Jack Sears Gerry Marshall Whizzo Williams Tony Lanfranchi Andy Rouse Roberto Ravaglia I have not included any of today's so called 'stars' as they tend to overtake if a gap is there or not, rather than drive past cleanly. Better suited to a stock car track. |
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13 Sep 2003, 10:24 (Ref:717223)
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Everyone seems to have overlooked the great John Cleland!
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13 Sep 2003, 10:49 (Ref:717239)
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Allan Moffatt Jim Richards John Bowe Marcos Ambrose Norm Beechey John Goss Glen Seton Peter Brock Craig Lowndes |
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13 Sep 2003, 10:57 (Ref:717247)
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I'm gonna limit my answer to 'modern' touring car racing - mid eighties onwards - as, prior to that, things were very different with F1 and sportscar stars taking the wheel regularly.
I'd say, in no real order, and excepting Nigel Mansell who is obviously the greatest driver that has ever lived  but who sucked in touring cars with the exception of one race:Soper Cleland Rouse Biela Giovanardi Winklehock Tarquini Aiello Brock Richards |
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13 Sep 2003, 19:32 (Ref:717714)
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13 Sep 2003, 20:16 (Ref:717782)
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13 Sep 2003, 20:19 (Ref:717784)
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Oh no, so I haven't.
But if I had, I wouldn't have forgotten him. Or rather, I would probably have deliberately forgotten him.... If you see what I mean..... Don't worry, I'll just go back to sleep.....
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14 Sep 2003, 08:48 (Ref:718238)
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14 Sep 2003, 14:41 (Ref:718500)
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Since some of my Pacific pals seem to restrict their choice, I could counter with:
Toine Hezemans Han Akersloot Ed Swart Peter Kox Duncan Huisman Ron Kluit Huub Vermeulen Henny Hemmes Rob Slotemaker Christijan Albers  but just making fun.My all time top 10 would be, in no particular order: Dieter Quester Toine Hezemans Hans Heyer Dieter Glemser Roberto Ravaglia Andy Rouse Gerry Marshall Bernd Schneider Hans Stuck John Fitzpatrick |
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14 Sep 2003, 16:01 (Ref:718572)
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no particulat order . but only the ones i saw racing ..
Aiello Giovanardi Tarquini Yvan Muller Bern Schneider Johnny Cecotto Alan Menu Ricard Rydell Joachim Winkelhock Biela i could name a few more
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14 Sep 2003, 16:46 (Ref:718625)
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Anyone who leaves Win Percy out of their list, has missed a big one, along with Tom Walkinshaw and Martin Brundell IMHO.
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14 Sep 2003, 17:01 (Ref:718635)
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14 Sep 2003, 17:59 (Ref:718671)
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Can't beat the old RS500 scraps between Rouse & Soper. Also have to include Percy, Brock, Skaife, Richards (Sr), Tarquini, Giovanardi, Smokin' Jo, Ravaglia, Schneider, Sir John Whitmore. Sorry - 10 isn't enough! The only way for me to judge would be to get them all together in identical cars - I wonder where Bill & Ted left their phone booth!
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14 Sep 2003, 18:35 (Ref:718702)
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Going well so far i see!!! Keep up the good work!
Some names bring back a few good memories that's for sure! Completely agree with Andrew Kitson - todays stars ARE more like stock car drivers! - and the MSA / TOCA let them get away with it.... Bizarre! Here's my top 10.... ( in no particular order...) Andy Rouse Steve Soper Roberto Ravaglia Hans Stuck Bernd Schneider Dick Johnson Nicola Larini Gerry Marshall Jim Richards David Sears Now, lets find 10 550BHP flame spitting RS500's, take 'em all to Mount Panorama, and let these boys get on with it! In fact, lets now take the following drivers to essex arena, give 'em knackered Ford Granadas and see who is still alive after 15 laps... Yvan Muller Anthony Reid Jason Plato Frank Sytner Colin Turkington Tim Harvey And, Finally...... Mike Smith!!!!!!!
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14 Sep 2003, 21:14 (Ref:718842)
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Ravaglia has to be top, then Gerry Marshall.
Dieter Quester Gerhard Berger Chris Hodgetts Alan Grice Andy Rouse Steve Soper Gianfranco Brancatelli Armin Hahne |
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15 Sep 2003, 06:46 (Ref:719170)
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Gerry Marshall for me, he is everything a touring car driver should be anfd more and 'he's only here for the beer!'
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15 Sep 2003, 20:00 (Ref:719983)
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Hers my top ten of drivers I have had the pleasure of watching over the last forty years! (again in no particular order)
Frank Gardner Win Percy Steve Soper Roberto Ravaglia John Fitzpatrick Hans Stuck Bernard Unett Gerry Marshall Dieter Quester Peter Brock. And definitely NOT John Cleland. Those who just missed out were Brian Muir Bill McGovern Toine Hezemans Dieter Glemser Hans Heyer Allan Moffatt Andy Rouse Gerry Birrell Gordon Spice Sir John Whitmore |
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