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22 Oct 2003, 18:20 (Ref:759845)
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Just picked a couple of bits of info about Audi, this was in todays Ouest-France.
Dr Ullrich has said that nothing has been decieded for next year and they have started work on the R9 but it doesn't exist yet and the borad haven't yet given the go ahead for it. He went on but the most likely outcome is greater assistance for our customers - Champion, Goh and Audi UK. Ullrich also said that they are speaking to several other importers about running cars. But there will be at least 3 cars out next year Champion, Goh and Audi UK. So what does this mean in 2004, Champion could be alone (as R8 entrants) in the ALMS and Le Mans, and Audi UK and Goh should enter the LMES and Le Mans. There is rummour doing the rounds that there may also third R8 could come from Spain. DSC also report that there were suggestions at Petit Le Mans that an R8 could be run in the ALMS by a Canadian Audi dealer. So there you go looks like we might be stuck with the R8 for another year........... |
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22 Oct 2003, 18:28 (Ref:759858)
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Canadian Audi dealer. Hmmmmmm...
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22 Oct 2003, 18:31 (Ref:759865)
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I noticed that you omitted Joest from the Audi teams for next year. Are they done with racing, moving to something else, using a different car? Maybe I missed some news about them, sorry if this is old news. Thanks for any info.
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22 Oct 2003, 18:35 (Ref:759868)
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Elsewhere Joest has been rumoured to be headed to DTM. Audi got thrashed there this year, and the namesake of the Abt team passed away just this week. What Joest does in 2004 is not clear at this point.
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22 Oct 2003, 18:37 (Ref:759871)
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So looks like the Audi will be around for at least another year - deep joy.
 I wonder just how much more development potential is in the car? Id imagine that after 2004 any improvmenets that can be made to the cars will be marginal.Another Audi win next year? Or will the Dome's and Lister's be developed enough and up to the job of beating the privateer Audi's? |
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22 Oct 2003, 18:57 (Ref:759887)
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yeah, private and artisans should take advantage of 2004 to win at LM at least once.
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22 Oct 2003, 23:19 (Ref:760098)
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Joest are rumoured to be entering the DTM AND LMES with an R8, if they leave the ALMS. This seems possible as the R9 will be developed through 2004 in Europe, presumably with the assistance of Joest.
The Spanish Engineering Team are looking at running an R8 as mentioned above and Goh may even run 2 cars. It appears Audi UK are also eying the LMES. The R8s had very little development in 2003 and I would imagine could still go well in 2004 with greater assistance from the the factory. |
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23 Oct 2003, 00:43 (Ref:760148)
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If Joest leaves the ALMS, what does this leave for prototypes in the ALMS for 2004? Also loosing the Panoz team, unless a privateer buys the cars. Doesn't look so hot on this side of the pond at the moment in terms of prototypes.
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23 Oct 2003, 00:47 (Ref:760149)
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Yes indeed, as it stands at the moment all ud have in the 900 class is the Champion Audi and a couple of R&S - and the Panoz'es if someone buys them. U know im suprised theres no Courages in the ALMS to be honest really....theres enough of them about.
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23 Oct 2003, 00:50 (Ref:760152)
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After being starved of decent prototype racing in Europe outside of LM it seems like the LMES is starting to attract both the current FIA SCC teams, plus the likes of Goh, Audi UK, Spanish Engineering, CMS, RML, Nasamax, Rollcentre, Chamberlain, Lister, Rowan, WR, Courage etc, etc. At last Euro teams seem to actually have a series that they want to race there LMPs in, outside of LM and Sebring. 
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23 Oct 2003, 11:11 (Ref:760530)
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Good news.
I have a supspicion that we will see a big name entrant for '04 sometime in the new year. LM seems ripe for a works team to come in and take over where Audi have left off. IMHO i think it'll be too big an opportunity to turn down. |
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23 Oct 2003, 12:20 (Ref:760629)
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23 Oct 2003, 15:49 (Ref:760915)
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Hmmm... Volvo said, when they dropped out of ETCC, that they would come back in major racing soon....
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23 Oct 2003, 18:26 (Ref:761069)
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OK, how many chassis exist for the R8?
How many were built each year? Any ever been written off? |
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23 Oct 2003, 20:07 (Ref:761186)
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Don't know the numbers, but there's actually a shortage of race-ready R8s out there. The factory has one for testing purposes, Joest has one, Goh has two, Champion has one, and Audi UK has one. That accounts for all the latest-spec Audis I think. There are several old cars (older spec) in private collections too.
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23 Oct 2003, 20:12 (Ref:761197)
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Why would Goh have two?
Did they get a new one for this years race? Is the Joest car one of the factory cars from last year? Is the Champion car on Ebay not race ready, then? |
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23 Oct 2003, 20:32 (Ref:761224)
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Goh are looking to run 2 cars in LMES depending on finance. With no factory Audis it is more likely to happen than with the factory racing as well.
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23 Oct 2003, 21:53 (Ref:761315)
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Chassis No. - Team #403 - Joest 2000 LM - Johansson 2001 LM/ELMS/ALMS #404 - Joest 2000 LM #405 - Joest 2000 LM - Champion 2001 ALMS (sold on eBay 2003 - to private collector or team?) #501 - Joest 2001 LM - Team Goh 2002 #502 - Joest 2001 ALMS - Champion 2001 LM #503 - Joest 2001 LM/ALMS #505 - Champion 2002 ALMS, 2003 LM/ALMS #601 - Joest 2002 LM #602 - Joest 2002 LM/ALMS - Team Goh 2003 LM #603 - Joest 2002 LM - Audi UK 2003 LM #604 - Joest 2003 ALMS This gives a total of 11 cars but there are some gaps in the numbers. I've probably missed some cars. I haven't been able to find any chassis numbers from the cars entered in ALMS 2000 but maybe someone else has them. I guess the car Michele Alboreto drove in his fatal accident is a write off. Which one was that? |
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23 Oct 2003, 22:15 (Ref:761337)
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Looks like enough for that Spanish Racing Engineering team to latch onto one, anyway....but Audi has to be guarding closely hwat is actually "available" and who, if anyone else, would get them....
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23 Oct 2003, 22:19 (Ref:761341)
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23 Oct 2003, 22:33 (Ref:761350)
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What the...?! It's still for sale? What are we waiting for? How about a TT Audi team for Le Mans 2004...
...Darn, no VIN #... |
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23 Oct 2003, 23:55 (Ref:761378)
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I wonder how much it would cost to convert this car to 2003 specs? If that's doable, maybe I'll buy it. lol In addition, just think about the cost in spare parts, race hauler, team infrastructure, etc.
The ad gives you some great shots at the guts of an R8 though. |
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24 Oct 2003, 15:31 (Ref:762009)
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I spoke with one of the mechanics at the champoion pit at the Petit this eyear (got a tour couresy of my IMSA talk t-shirt.) He said that it has been changed from the tub out, to convert that car to 2003 specs would mean replacing almost everything aside from the tub. They had it in the pits to send with the IMSA folks to the SEMA Show. Robert
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egs, Porsche Aston Bentley  MG Panoz Was a decision or statement ever made about the return of the Japanese constructors (Toyota/ Mazda)? |
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24 Oct 2003, 15:57 (Ref:762035)
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The ACO have stated there will be no 'Super' GTS class and cars like the Masarati will only compete for overall wins in LMGTP. As I say, due to these cars being road based they will need bigger restrictors etc. to compete with genuine prototype LMGTPs. Last edited by JAG; 24 Oct 2003 at 16:00. |
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