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Old 26 Mar 2004, 18:18 (Ref:920324)   #1
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Nasamax??

What is NASAMAX? Is this a rename of an existing car? What is a NASAMAX Judd?

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Old 26 Mar 2004, 18:19 (Ref:920325)   #2
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Oh, I did a search, its just a Reynard?

Is this the eco team that ran at Sebring before, on envirnmentally friendly fuels?

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Old 26 Mar 2004, 18:24 (Ref:920331)   #3
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Yep thats them, they also ran at LM last year, and wasnt that uncompetitve. one of the main problems the team had though was getting the fuel to last a stint as long as the other LMP 900 cars - so this year the Nasamax team will run with a 130 litre tank and the other LMP 1 cars 90 litres. Hopefully the team will be more competitve this year.
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Old 26 Mar 2004, 18:36 (Ref:920350)   #4
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The problem is the Reynard sucks.
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Old 26 Mar 2004, 18:46 (Ref:920360)   #5
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No, the Reynard is a fairly good chasis. I remember back in 2000 the cars were setting 3:43 lap times, now for a LMP 675 class machine thats pretty fast, unless of course ur comparing it to the MG Lola's, but I mean come on, theres more chasis worse than the Reynard in the 675 class than there is that were better.
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Old 26 Mar 2004, 18:47 (Ref:920361)   #6
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I ment it sucks as a 900 car.
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Old 26 Mar 2004, 19:37 (Ref:920426)   #7
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Nasamax and also Fred Goddard evidently don't seem to think so!
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Old 26 Mar 2004, 21:15 (Ref:920540)   #8
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Oh, I did a search, its just a Reynard?

Is this the eco team that ran at Sebring before, on envirnmentally friendly fuels?
A couple of months back there was news that this team was doing the "total" conversion of that Reynard chassis to the 2004 specs., and that they had hired some of the former Reynard LMP project people to do the conversion so that the conversion would be done in accordance with the ACO's guidelines for changes to a homologated chassis....

Because those changes were going to be quite extensive, it was noted that the car would actually be re-badged as a "Nasamax"...

At least that is the way I understood it....

One other note:

They aren't running the Cosworth (ex-CART) turbo...apparently, it will be a bio-ethanol-fueled Judd....
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Old 27 Mar 2004, 02:32 (Ref:920822)   #9
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Size matters

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They aren't running the Cosworth (ex-CART) turbo...apparently, it will be a bio-ethanol-fueled Judd....
According to the `entry list', it will be a 4.9L, same size as the new Caterpillar backed Diesel powered entry.
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Old 27 Mar 2004, 04:03 (Ref:920883)   #10
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so the CAT engine will be a Judd power, with diesel. (nasmax has already said that they will run a Bio-Judd engine)
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Old 27 Mar 2004, 09:04 (Ref:921023)   #11
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http://www.nasamax.com - they will have a Judd V10.
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Old 27 Mar 2004, 14:32 (Ref:921266)   #12
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Re: Size matters

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According to the `entry list', it will be a 4.9L, same size as the new Caterpillar backed Diesel powered entry.
But remember, Judd produced a larger displacement version of the v10, 5l up from 4l, last year.
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 13:13 (Ref:922844)   #13
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The Caterpillar engine is not Judd based and it's not the Ricardo engine.
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 14:36 (Ref:922917)   #14
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No, the Reynard is a fairly good chasis.
It started out sucky, but became better. I recall a poster outlining the development problems with it (heat flex and the like) that really killed its sales potential before it had a chance, but these problems had been more or less sorted by last year.

However, the plumbing and bodywork was no good for the Cossie CART engine, and they had significant heat problems last year. Nasamax have done some substantial modifications, meaning that the chassis is no longer really a Reynard.
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 15:08 (Ref:922946)   #15
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That's why it is now listed as a "Nasamax" on the entry list....

We all knew that changes to the 2004 specs on an existing chassis would be extensive....this gave them an opportunity to give a new life to a chassis that had been originated by a builder that is now out of business....

Since they used the engineers who were involved in the project when they worked for Reynard, it should meet with the necessary ACO homologation requirements, and would give Nasamax an opportunity to create molds and maybe even sell a few cars if their 2004 specs chassis proves to be a good one...
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 16:22 (Ref:923015)   #16
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Are there any details available of the chassis changes?

And - slightly off-topic - has Pescarolo done the same to its Courage, which now appears as a 'Pescarolo-Judd'?
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 16:46 (Ref:923043)   #17
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He has a deal with Judd for the 5L powerplant .
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 16:47 (Ref:923044)   #18
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We have discussed the Pescarolo changes at length in the past....

Theirs were made by de Constanze, who was not involved with any of the Courage development....

However, being a designer with an outstanding track record, I would imagine that his changes to the Courage chassis were submitted to the ACO and an arrangement was made to homologate them in some way, shape or form, to comply with ACO rules concerning how changes must be made to an original chassis and the criteria for getting those changes approved for competition....
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 17:33 (Ref:923094)   #19
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Yes, but in the past the car has run as a 'Courage C60 Evo'; it now seems to be running as a 'Pescarolo'.
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Old 29 Mar 2004, 18:23 (Ref:923160)   #20
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I understand that...

From what I have understood, there were additional changes being made to that car for 2004 by de Constanze....

If the changes, when coupled with last year's revisions, are extensive enough as a whole that makes the car more "Pescarolo" than "Courage," than I guess that it would warrant the name change...as well as new homologation papers to register it with the ACO....

I'm sure that Nasamax has been required to do the same thing...
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1L ethanol = +-5000Kcal
1L gas = +-8000Kcal

8/5=1.6
1.6*90 = 144L

90L = +-130L

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Old 30 Mar 2004, 14:25 (Ref:924026)   #23
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At the LMES Test Days on April 6 & 7 at the Paul Ricard circuit???

I'm assuming that is what you mean...correct????
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Old 30 Mar 2004, 15:58 (Ref:924139)   #24
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1L ethanol = +-5000Kcal
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8/5=1.6
1.6*90 = 144L

90L = +-130L
LMP900 should have 80L

so 1.6*80=128L
compared to 80L, it's all good

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the only problem is that it will take more time to refuel
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